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[LaFontaineToMogilny]

Taro T, on 10 July 2012 - 12:46 PM, said:

Although listening to a Finn speak you'd swear they come from somewhere near Korea, they are in fact Scandinavians.

Here you have inadvertently stumbled upon one of my pet peeves, but Finland is not part of Scandinavia. Scandinavia includes only three countries; Norway, Sweden and Denmark.

Iceland, Finland, Faeroe Island etc are not part of Scandinavia despite a widespread misconception in the US and elsewhere that they are. This larger group is properly referred to as 'The Nordic Countries'.

[K-9]

LaFontaineToMogilny, on 10 July 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:

Here you have inadvertently stumbled upon one of my pet peeves, but Finland is not part of Scandinavia. Scandinavia includes only three countries; Norway, Sweden and Denmark.

Iceland, Finland, Faeroe Island etc are not part of Scandinavia despite a widespread misconception in the US and elsewhere that they are. This larger group is properly referred to as 'The Nordic Countries'.

I'm pretty sure Norway, Sweden, and Denmark are all considered Nordic countries as well.

GO SABRES!!!

[weave]

LaFontaineToMogilny, on 10 July 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:

Here you have inadvertently stumbled upon one of my pet peeves, but Finland is not part of Scandinavia. Scandinavia includes only three countries; Norway, Sweden and Denmark.

Iceland, Finland, Faeroe Island etc are not part of Scandinavia despite a widespread misconception in the US and elsewhere that they are. This larger group is properly referred to as 'The Nordic Countries'.

Huh.  Whooda thunk Norway wasn't Nordic?

[LaFontaineToMogilny]

K-9, on 10 July 2012 - 01:18 PM, said:

I'm pretty sure Norway, Sweden, and Denmark are all considered Nordic countries as well.

GO SABRES!!!

Of course! 'The Nordic Countries' refers to a larger group of countries than Scandinavia, but Scandinavia proper is a part of the Nordic countries. For completeness sake, 'The Nordic Countries' include:

Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Faeroe Islands, Greenland and Aland

[Taro T]

LaFontaineToMogilny, on 10 July 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:

Here you have inadvertently stumbled upon one of my pet peeves, but Finland is not part of Scandinavia. Scandinavia includes only three countries; Norway, Sweden and Denmark.

Iceland, Finland, Faeroe Island etc are not part of Scandinavia despite a widespread misconception in the US and elsewhere that they are. This larger group is properly referred to as 'The Nordic Countries'.

You'll never have me argue for Iceland nor the Faroes, but I've always considered Finland a part (their history w/ Sweden is too great) as does my Scandanavian descended wife and her parents.  (All her grandparents came over on boats from one of the other 3.)

[Glass Case Of Emotion]

LaFontaineToMogilny, on 10 July 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:

Here you have inadvertently stumbled upon one of my pet peeves, but Finland is not part of Scandinavia. Scandinavia includes only three countries; Norway, Sweden and Denmark.

Iceland, Finland, Faeroe Island etc are not part of Scandinavia despite a widespread misconception in the US and elsewhere that they are. This larger group is properly referred to as 'The Nordic Countries'.

LaFontaineToMogilny, on 10 July 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

Of course! 'The Nordic Countries' refers to a larger group of countries than Scandinavia, but Scandinavia proper is a part of the Nordic countries. For completeness sake, 'The Nordic Countries' include:

Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Faeroe Islands, Greenland and Aland

I have learned today. Thanks

[shrader]

Taro T, on 10 July 2012 - 01:26 PM, said:

You'll never have me argue for Iceland nor the Faroes, but I've always considered Finland a part (their history w/ Sweden is too great) as does my Scandanavian descended wife and her parents.  (All her grandparents came over on boats from one of the other 3.)

Finland makes more sense than Denmark since it's actually connected to that same land mass.

[weave]

Some quick Googling reveals that the countries that make up Scandinavia is very dependant upon who you ask and what time frame is being refered to.  Worldatlas.com sez that traditionally Scandinavia is 3 countries, but that today it refers to 5 countries and includes Finland.

[LaFontaineToMogilny]

Taro T, on 10 July 2012 - 01:26 PM, said:

You'll never have me argue for Iceland nor the Faroes, but I've always considered Finland a part (their history w/ Sweden is too great) as does my Scandanavian descended wife and her parents.  (All her grandparents came over on boats from one of the other 3.)

Sorry for further derailing, but you can not include Finland and not include Iceland as Iceland is much closer tied to Scandinavia then Finland. I came over myself (on a plane though) and I can assure you that in the countries in question, there is a very clear distinction between Scandinavia and The Nordic Countries.

As a born and bred Scandinavian I'd say it makes as much sense to say Finland is part of Scandinavia as Quebec is part of The United States.

[Glass Case Of Emotion]

shrader, on 10 July 2012 - 01:28 PM, said:

Finland makes more sense than Denmark since it's actually connected to that same land mass.

Apparently, this is only true in the last 10,000 years. Prior to that, southern Sweden would have been an island off the coast of the island that Copenhagen sits on. You can drive from Copenhagen to Stockholm in 6 hours without getting on a ferry. Stockholm to Helsinki is 10 hours with 2 ferries. Never would have thunk it!

[weave]

LaFontaineToMogilny, on 10 July 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

Sorry for further derailing, but you can not include Finland and not include Iceland as Iceland is much closer tied to Scandinavia then Finland. I came over myself (on a plane though) and I can assure you that in the countries in question, there is a very clear distinction between Scandinavia and The Nordic Countries.

As a born and bred Scandinavian I'd say it makes as much sense to say Finland is part of Scandinavia as Quebec is part of The United States.

Isn't the entirety of Canada the 51st state?

[K-9]

shrader, on 10 July 2012 - 01:28 PM, said:

Finland makes more sense than Denmark since it's actually connected to that same land mass.

Geographically, yes. But linguistically, Denmark shares the common word "Skandinavien" with Norway and Sweden, which refers to the ancient territories of the Norsemen. Finland doesn't share that linguistic heritage. I've also heard that the only area of Finland that is considered "Scandinavian" is the northern part which borders both Sweden and Norway.

I love this bb.

GO SABRES!!!

weave, on 10 July 2012 - 01:38 PM, said:

Isn't the entirety of Canada the 51st state?

I'm pretty sure it's considered a colony.

At least until we need additional parking space.

GO SABRES!!!

Edited by K-9, 10 July 2012 - 01:50 PM.

[dEnnis the Menace]

weave, on 10 July 2012 - 01:38 PM, said:

Isn't the entirety of Canada the 51st state?

It's the top hat of the US

[Taro T]

LaFontaineToMogilny, on 10 July 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

Sorry for further derailing, but you can not include Finland and not include Iceland as Iceland is much closer tied to Scandinavia then Finland. I came over myself (on a plane though) and I can assure you that in the countries in question, there is a very clear distinction between Scandinavia and The Nordic Countries.

As a born and bred Scandinavian I'd say it makes as much sense to say Finland is part of Scandinavia as Quebec is part of The United States.

Iceland was settled by Scandinavians, but due to geography, I wouldn't include it.  If someone else wants to that's fine.

As to your more important point, OK, if we count Quebec, that's 51.  Any idea which were Candidate Obama's other 6?

[Derrico]

I won't take offence to any of this.....

[LaFontaineToMogilny]

K-9, on 10 July 2012 - 01:40 PM, said:

Geographically, yes. But linguistically, Denmark shares the common word "Skandinavien" with Norway and Sweden, which refers to the ancient territories of the Norse men. Finland doesn't share that linguistic heritage. I've also heard that the only area of Finland that is considered "Scandinavian" is the northern part which borders both Sweden and Norway.

Here you open up another wormhole of confusion. 'Scandinavia' is often confused with the geographical area 'The Scandinavian Peninsula'. The Peninsula includes the Northern most parts of Finland, but NOT Denmark. Indeed, confusing. Finland is still not part of Scandinavia though.

[LaFontaineToMogilny]

Taro T, on 10 July 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

Iceland was settled by Scandinavians, but due to geography, I wouldn't include it.  If someone else wants to that's fine.

As to your more important point, OK, if we count Quebec, that's 51.  Any idea which were Candidate Obama's other 6?

It is NOT fine! Anyone wanting to include Iceland or Finland in Scandinavia are wrong. They are wronger to include Finland though, since they speak a language that isn't even remotely related to Scandinavian languages, at least Icelandic has evolved from the same common root as Norwegian, Swedish and Danish.

[K-9]

LaFontaineToMogilny, on 10 July 2012 - 01:49 PM, said:

Here you open up another wormhole of confusion. 'Scandinavia' is often confused with the geographical area 'The Scandinavian Peninsula'. The Peninsula includes the Northern most parts of Finland, but NOT Denmark. Indeed, confusing. Finland is still not part of Scandinavia though.

Perhaps the northern most part of Finland that geographically rests on the Scandinavian Peninsula and borders both Norway and Sweden should secede. Clearly, that's the only solution.

GO SABRES!!!

[shrader]

"All about Scandanavia" ######!  Very little of the discussion is actually about Norway.

[Glass Case Of Emotion]

Lolz to the thread title.

[LaFontaineToMogilny]

Norway is the most important part of Scandinavia, I think the title is just fine

[Taro T]

LaFontaineToMogilny, on 10 July 2012 - 01:52 PM, said:

It is NOT fine! Anyone wanting to include Iceland or Finland in Scandinavia are wrong. They are wronger to include Finland though, since they speak a language that isn't even remotely related to Scandinavian languages, at least Icelandic has evolved from the same common root as Norwegian, Swedish and Danish.

LtM, thanks for the chuckle.  I needed that today.

[shrader]

LaFontaineToMogilny, on 10 July 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:

Norway is the most important part of Scandinavia, I think the title is just fine

Fine, I'll just start my own splinter thread "All about Sweden" since that's off limits here.

[Spndnchz]

Hows that?

[d4rksabre]

dEnnis the Menace, on 10 July 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

It's the top hat of the US

Naw man, we're Canada's beer gut.

[Glass Case Of Emotion]

Taro T, on 10 July 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:

LtM, thanks for the chuckle.  I needed that today.

What's the over-under on how many posts Chz moves before she completely loses it?

[Glass Case Of Emotion]

d4rksabre, on 10 July 2012 - 01:58 PM, said:

Naw man, we're Canada's beer gut.

I prefer the term "Bacon Belly"

[Spndnchz]

d4rksabre, on 10 July 2012 - 01:58 PM, said:

Naw man, we're Canada's beer gut.

And Florida would be?

[d4rksabre]

spndnchz, on 10 July 2012 - 02:00 PM, said:

And Florida would be?

Where the beer comes out.

For anyone in France looking for poultry products today, here:

http://courses.monop.../Poulet-6560260

[K-9]

spndnchz, on 10 July 2012 - 02:00 PM, said:

And Florida would be?

Canada's udder?

GO SABRES!!!

[LaFontaineToMogilny]

spndnchz, on 10 July 2012 - 02:00 PM, said:

And Florida would be?

On a related note. Rumors are that Norway continues to reject membership in the European Union for the sole reason that the exclusion of Norway on the Euro coins makes Sweden and Finland look like a ###### and balls.

[Taro T]

Courtesy of Monty Python:

Finland, Finland, Finland.
The country where I want to be,
Pony trekking or camping,
Or just watching TV.
Finland, Finland, Finland,
It's the country for me.

You're so near to Russia,
So far from Japan.
Quite a long way from Cairo,
Lots of miles from Vietnam.

Finland, Finland, Finland.
The country where I want to be,
Eating breakfast or dinner,
Or snack lunch in the hall.
Finland, Finland, Finland,
Finland has it all.

You're so sadly neglected,
And often ignored,
A poor second to Belgium,
When going abroad.

Finland, Finland, Finland.
The country where I quite want to be,
Your mountains so lofty,
Your treetops so tall.
Finland, Finland, Finland,
Finland has it all.

Finland, Finland, Finland.
The country where I quite want to be,
Your mountains so lofty,
Your treetops so tall.
Finland, Finland, Finland,
Finland has it all.
Finland has it all...

[dEnnis the Menace]

LastPommerFan, on 10 July 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

I prefer the term "Bacon Belly"

The avg American consumes 17.9 LBS of Bacon per year (a tenth of a pound more than the avg Brit), so yeah, that works.

[Spndnchz]

dEnnis the Menace, on 10 July 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

The avg American consumes 17.9 LBS of Bacon per year (a tenth of a pound more than the avg Brit), so yeah, that works.

Fact of the day toilet paper?

[dEnnis the Menace]

spndnchz, on 10 July 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

Fact of the day toilet paper?

HAHA nah, but might as well be. someone posted 17 random bacon facts on facebook this morning, made for a mouth watering coffee break...

[apuszczalowski]

LaFontaineToMogilny, on 10 July 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

Sorry for further derailing, but you can not include Finland and not include Iceland as Iceland is much closer tied to Scandinavia then Finland. I came over myself (on a plane though) and I can assure you that in the countries in question, there is a very clear distinction between Scandinavia and The Nordic Countries.

As a born and bred Scandinavian I'd say it makes as much sense to say Finland is part of Scandinavia as Quebec is part of The United States.

Do you guys want them? If so, they are all yours. We can make a deal, we will send you "La Belle Province" for your 3rd rounder and a state to be named later (not one of those southern backwards family lovin' ones though). We may accept Alaska if you guys promise to keep Palin.............

[shrader]

spndnchz, on 10 July 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

Hows that?

I was going to ask about where exactly Djibouti is located, so yes, I think you covered that question.

[That Aud Smell]

my only "contribution" (gotta have the air quotes there):

one hundred swedes, they ran ...
at the battle of copenhagen.
one hundred swedes, they ran ...
chased ... by one norwegian***

*** pronounced to me as nor-wagon. this was a little couplet that an old drinking buddy of mine (who looked like a viking) would reliably trot out after about 11 beers.

/ducks
/hides
/changes name
/realizes too late that no one actually gives a sh!t about this post.

Edited by That Aud Smell, 10 July 2012 - 04:14 PM.

[K-9]

That Aud Smell, on 10 July 2012 - 04:13 PM, said:

my only "contribution" (gotta have the air quotes there):

one hundred swedes, they ran ...
at the battle of copenhagen.
one hundred swedes, they ran ...
chased ... by one norwegian***

*** pronounced to me as nor-wagon. this was a little couplet that an old drinking buddy of mine (who looked like a viking) would reliably trot out after about 11 beers.

/ducks
/hides
/changes name
/realizes too late that no one actually gives a sh!t about this post.

Well, I like it. Had an old drinking buddy (may he RIP) who would get a few in him and bust out into his rendition of the Norwegian national anthem. Regardless of bar or other venue, it was always hysterical.

The Vikings and Bee Keepers!
The Vikings and Bee Keepers!

Nothin' like an obscure SCTV reference I always say!

GO SABRES!!!

[SwampD]

shrader, on 10 July 2012 - 01:56 PM, said:

Fine, I'll just start my own splinter thread "All about Sweden" since that's off limits here.

Can I start an "All about Sealand" thread?