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[Spndnchz]

Let us start with this one:

Flames sign Dennis Wideman from the Caps in exchange for Jordan Henry and a 5th pick in 2013 Draft.

Wideman gets 5.25 million per for 5 years.

[ThirtyEight]

How does Feaster have a job?

[TrueBluePhD]

I touched on this in another thread, but stated another way....Feaster is in danger of making Howson look competent.

[Spndnchz]

ThirtyEight, on 27 June 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

How does Feaster have a job?

TrueBluePhD, on 27 June 2012 - 02:22 PM, said:

I touched on this in another thread, but stated another way....Feaster is in danger of making Howson look competent.

Who would you rather have Wideman at 5.25 or Myers at 5.5

[ThirtyEight]

spndnchz, on 27 June 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

Who would you rather have Wideman at 5.25 or Myers at 5.5

Myers - they will probably put up similar numbers, only Myers is better defensively and is 22 with a huge upside. Wideman is 29, so at his peak

[Spndnchz]

With the cap dropping so much from it's expected $70.3 million they are screwed.

[TrueBluePhD]

spndnchz, on 27 June 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

Who would you rather have Wideman at 5.25 or Myers at 5.5

I'd rather have Myers at 6.5.  If Wideman is worth 5.25, what the hell is Suter going to get when teams with $20 million in cap space are chasing him?  $7.5?  $8?

[sabres1970]

Where'd all the Bobby Ryan talk go? I know this is free agency frenzy not trade frenzy but still.

[nobody]

TrueBluePhD, on 27 June 2012 - 02:35 PM, said:

I'd rather have Myers at 6.5.  If Wideman is worth 5.25, what the hell is Suter going to get when teams with $20 million in cap space are chasing him?  $7.5?  $8?

Easy $8 per; but they will probably give him a 10 year contract to get that down to a 6.5 average.

[Spndnchz]

I heard Wideman can play center though...

[LGR4GM]

spndnchz, on 27 June 2012 - 02:46 PM, said:

I heard Wideman can play center though...

[dEnnis the Menace]

LGR4GM, on 27 June 2012 - 02:49 PM, said:

Don't worry, I heard he's not nearly as good at center as Gerbe is

[Spndnchz]

I remember the Flames tweeting that $10 million for two years to Hemsky was a joke.  (that tweet has since been removed).

Should get pretty crazy soon.  Checked out capgeek and 20 teams are under the salary cap floor right now.  Sure, with some RFA's signing a few more will be over but that's still a lot.

[ThirtyEight]

Flames fans think this signing means adios to J Bo

[RazielSabre]

TrueBluePhD, on 27 June 2012 - 02:22 PM, said:

I touched on this in another thread, but stated another way....Feaster is in danger of making Howson look competent.

At this rate his going to make Mike Milbury look competent. Massively overpaying him but this is a good signing for them, they desperately need to inject some youth, but this just isn't enough.

Edited by RazielSabre, 27 June 2012 - 03:48 PM.

[BuffaloSoldier2010]

RazielSabre, on 27 June 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

At this rate his going to make Mike Milbury look competent. Massively overpaying him but this is a good signing for them, they desperately need to inject some youth, but this just isn't enough.

Im not sure i'd consider adding Wideman as adding youth at this point.

[RazielSabre]

BuffaloSoldier2010, on 27 June 2012 - 03:52 PM, said:

Im not sure i'd consider adding Wideman as adding youth at this point.

No I know but his a solid player in his prime, most of Calgary are past their prime by a fair few years. If Feaster intends to get more players in their 20s, even late 20's, they'll make the playoffs again soon. I somehow doubt that though.

[nobody]

Mathieu Darche ‏@matdarche52
We can now jump to conclusions. It seems like I won't be back next year. ‪#verydisapointed‬ ‪#itisabusiness

[d4rksabre]

nobody, on 27 June 2012 - 05:10 PM, said:

Mathieu Darche ‏@matdarche52
We can now jump to conclusions. It seems like I won't be back next year. ‪#verydisapointed‬ ‪#itisabusiness

I always kinda liked Darche. Dude is a role player. He'd be a great addition to the Amerks and for call-ups to the Sabres.

[nobody]

d4rksabre, on 27 June 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:

I always kinda liked Darche. Dude is a role player. He'd be a great addition to the Amerks and for call-ups to the Sabres.

That won't cut it based on this tweet (at least not at the beginning of FA):
Renaud P Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS
Canadiens offered a 2 way contract to Mathieu Darche. He said no. Normal because he played on a one way in the last 2 years.

Edited by nobody, 27 June 2012 - 05:29 PM.

[d4rksabre]

nobody, on 27 June 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

That won't cut it based on this tweet (at least not at the beginning of FA):
Renaud P Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS
Canadiens offered a 2 way contract to Mathieu Darche. He said no. Normal because he played on a one way in the last 2 years.

I bet reality is gonna hit him hard. He's an old man in the hockey world. He's going to have to take a 2 way deal if he wants to keep playing.

[RazielSabre]

d4rksabre, on 27 June 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:

I always kinda liked Darche. Dude is a role player. He'd be a great addition to the Amerks and for call-ups to the Sabres.

While I don't know much about him how about replacing Ellis with him, especially if we can get him to throw his weight around a bit. McCormick-Darche-Kaleta/Tropp on 4th. Would that work? As I say I don't know much about him, only read his tsn player page

[d4rksabre]

RazielSabre, on 27 June 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

While I don't know much about him how about replacing Ellis with him, especially if we can get him to throw his weight around a bit. McCormick-Darche-Kaleta/Tropp on 4th. Would that work? As I say I don't know much about him, only read his tsn player page

He's old. I'll keep Ellis.

[weave]

Georges Laraque is delusional.



Jason Gregor ‏@JasonGregor
"I just want a tryout. I'm not expecting to get a contract today. I just want to get an invite to a camp. My back feels great." Laraque


Jason Gregor ‏@JasonGregor
"I will want to fight everyone in preseason, and beat the ###### out of anyone. I need to prove to everyone I still have it." Laraque. #WOW

[d4rksabre]

weave, on 27 June 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

Georges Laraque is delusional.



Jason Gregor ‏@JasonGregor
"I just want a tryout. I'm not expecting to get a contract today. I just want to get an invite to a camp. My back feels great." Laraque


Jason Gregor ‏@JasonGregor
"I will want to fight everyone in preseason, and beat the ###### out of anyone. I need to prove to everyone I still have it." Laraque. #WOW

Sign him to the Amerks

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

weave, on 27 June 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

Georges Laraque is delusional.



Jason Gregor ‏@JasonGregor
"I just want a tryout. I'm not expecting to get a contract today. I just want to get an invite to a camp. My back feels great." Laraque


Jason Gregor ‏@JasonGregor
"I will want to fight everyone in preseason, and beat the ###### out of anyone. I need to prove to everyone I still have it." Laraque. #WOW

@HSBCMortgage "I know I haven't made a payment in 15 months, but you gotta believe I'm tryin." #foreclosure

[Bullwinkle III]

weave, on 27 June 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

Georges Laraque is delusional.



Jason Gregor ‏@JasonGregor
"I just want a tryout. I'm not expecting to get a contract today. I just want to get an invite to a camp. My back feels great." Laraque


Jason Gregor ‏@JasonGregor
"I will want to fight everyone in preseason, and beat the ###### out of anyone. I need to prove to everyone I still have it." Laraque. #WOW

True, but I have to feel for the guy.  I played for 17 years and it was hard - very hard - to hang them up.  I even tried to make a comeback a couple of times but it only served to prove that my initial decision was the right one.

There's  a reason guys like Cam Neely cry at their farewells.  Once it's in your blood it's hard to just let go.  So is he delusional?  Yes, but it can be understood why.

[thesportsbuff]

He was just on WGR w/ Andrew Peters talking about how if he was on the bench during the Lucic/Miller incident, "Mr. Lucic" would have had a problem on his hands. I'll take him

Edited by thesportsbuff, 27 June 2012 - 06:54 PM.

[sabres1970]

Thoughts on Alex Semin? (Don't know if this has been discussed much). Looks like he'll be testing the UFA waters, also know there's some character issues. However we need scoring wherever we can get it, center or winger. Especially now that we drafred Grigs, we may not be totally anti-Russian.

[Bullwinkle III]

sabres1970, on 27 June 2012 - 07:42 PM, said:

Thoughts on Alex Semin? (Don't know if this has been discussed much). Looks like he'll be testing the UFA waters, also know there's some character issues. However we need scoring wherever we can get it, center or winger. Especially now that we drafred Grigs, we may not be totally anti-Russian.

Would you be willing to spend 6+ million for him?  I wouldn't.

[d4rksabre]

The only team I want Semin on is all of the other ones.

[Insomniac]

Id take Laraque in a second for the Amerks. Sign him now.

[LGR4GM]

Alexander Semin:
Plays with Ovechkin and Backstrom - two extremely good players
Discounting his Rookie year he has a 64.3ppya and
over the last 2 years he has a 0.76ppga over the last 2 years getting only 54pts each year and
he has never played a full 82 game season
and he is about as physical as a twinkie
He has definite attitude issues
He will most likely get around 6-7mil either here or in the KHL

In short no, I have no desire to pay a player who is essentially drew stafford more money. Actually if we use hits as a measure of toughness stafford had 3x as many hits last season.  Semin is a lot of nothin in a very expensive pain in the ass package.

[716]

this is all I need to know about Semin:

[Andrew Amerk]

sabres1970, on 27 June 2012 - 07:42 PM, said:

Thoughts on Alex Semin? (Don't know if this has been discussed much). Looks like he'll be testing the UFA waters, also know there's some character issues. However we need scoring wherever we can get it, center or winger. Especially now that we drafred Grigs, we may not be totally anti-Russian.

The Sabres already have enough cancer. They need chemo, not more cancer.

Semin might actually cause that vein in Lindys forehead to finally rupture.

Edited by Andrew Amerk, 28 June 2012 - 12:36 AM.

[RazielSabre]

I've just thought, doesn't Wideman's contact put him on par with Myers? Thats put the emphasis on overpayment.

Looking at the TSN comments some Flame fans like this move and don't want to rebuilt, remaining slightly competitive is enough. Bizarre.

[deluca67]

RazielSabre, on 28 June 2012 - 05:00 AM, said:

I've just thought, doesn't Wideman's contact put him on par with Myers? Thats put the emphasis on overpayment.

Looking at the TSN comments some Flame fans like this move and don't want to rebuilt, remaining slightly competitive is enough. Bizarre.

Sounds a lot like what we have seen on this board over the years.

The Wideman contract could end up being an omen of how free agency will go. If Wideman can garner $5+ a year, what will the Sabres be able to buy with only $10 mil to spend?  They still have to sign Ennis, and unless he is moved that will leave the Sabres closer to only having $7 mil left for free agency. That's not enough bait to land a big fish.

[RazielSabre]

DeLuca67, on 28 June 2012 - 06:16 AM, said:

Sounds a lot like what we have seen on this board over the years.

The Wideman contract could end up being an omen of how free agency will go. If Wideman can garner $5+ a year, what will the Sabres be able to buy with only $10 mil to spend?  They still have to sign Ennis, and unless he is moved that will leave the Sabres closer to only having $7 mil left for free agency. That's not enough bait to land a big fish.

Almost every professional hockey journo has counted us out of the 'big fish' race as it were. I think it is time to stop thinking that we will land Parise/Suter/Nash/etc. Doan is our best bet imho. I would keep our D the same.

And I say Sabres community have never been happy with just getting into 8th, there has always been a desire for more. Management were happy when we had no money to play with. There's never been any doubting the ambition of this organisation in my mind.

[deluca67]

RazielSabre, on 28 June 2012 - 06:24 AM, said:

Almost every professional hockey journo has counted us out of the 'big fish' race as it were. I think it is time to stop thinking that we will land Parise/Suter/Nash/etc. Doan is our best bet imho. I would keep our D the same.

And I say Sabres community have never been happy with just getting into 8th, there has always been a desire for more. Management were happy when we had no money to play with. There's never been any doubting the ambition of this organisation in my mind.

Doan is 35, if he leaves Phoenix it will likely be to go to a contender for a chance at a Cup. Other than a heavily front loaded contract, why would Doan come to Buffalo?  Do the Sabres really want to overpay for a 35 year old?

[RazielSabre]

DeLuca67, on 28 June 2012 - 06:24 AM, said:

Saw a piece on that Justin Schultz last night. Anyone interested in seeing the Sabres take a run at him? Not often a talented 22 year old hits the free agent market. I like the idea.

And where are we going to put him, and why do we want to sign a 22 year old who has proven nothing and already wanted more than 1 NHL team were offering. The kid has 'diva' written all over him. He'll get a massive contract and underperform.

DeLuca67, on 28 June 2012 - 06:27 AM, said:

Doan is 35, if he leaves Phoenix it will likely be to go to a contender for a chance at a Cup. Other than a heavily front loaded contract, why would Doan come to Buffalo?  Do the Sabres really want to overpay for a 35 year old?

I think this team has the ability to make it and we have a better chance than quite a lot of the powerhouses, as we saw with the Kings. I know his old and is playing for a chance for the cup but surely thats more reason to sign him. He has the attitude we need.