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#1 tom webster

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 10:30 PM

It's that time of the year. Predict the off season moves, come closest to being right and win two tickets to a Sabres game. Tickets are 100 level preferred, near center ice. I'll do my best to accomodate your schedule. In the interest of full disclosure, last years winner never picked a game and I donated the tickets. Any moves that happen before you pick will obviously not count in your favor so don't hesitate.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 11:02 PM

A number of fringe veterans signed to play with the Amerks.
Arron Asham or someone similar will be signed to fill a bottom-line role
Derek Roy, Patrick Kaleta and TJ Brennan will be traded for Steve Ott and a pick
...and Pegula pulls a Mario Williams-style shocker and signs Parise.

(Yes, I am an optimist and I think Weave is a brilliant man)

Edited by dudacek, 24 June 2012 - 11:07 PM.


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Posted 24 June 2012 - 11:22 PM

Tpegs pulls out all the stops and gets Rick Nash for Pysyk, Roy, Srafford and a 1st and conditional 2nd.
Gaustad gets re-signed to Buffalo for a resonable 2yr deal.
Sekera gets traded for 3 ahl players and a 2nd round draft pick.
........Then the biggest shocker Buffalo signs Ryan Sutter for 6 yrs and ridiculous money.

I think Tpegs and Darcy want a few stars on the team and are willing to risk it.


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Posted 24 June 2012 - 11:48 PM

we dont trade for Ryan or Nash. We sign Konpoka and i think in a stunner Doan signs with us as the Yotes ownership issue lingers

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 05:59 AM

View Postdudacek, on 24 June 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

A number of fringe veterans signed to play with the Amerks.
Arron Asham or someone similar will be signed to fill a bottom-line role
Derek Roy, Patrick Kaleta and TJ Brennan will be traded for Steve Ott and a pick
...and Pegula pulls a Mario Williams-style shocker and signs Parise.

(Yes, I am an optimist and I think Weave is a brilliant man)

Don't put all your eggs in my basket.  My genius has not done me all that well.  :P

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 07:08 AM

In

Ray Whitney, LW
Ollii Jokinen, C
Draft picks

Out

Stafford
Roy
Draft picks

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 08:15 AM

Random Guess/Going for the gold:

Out

Roy, Pysyck

In

Pavelski
Burrish

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 08:43 AM

I'm under the assumption that Darcy still wants Roy gone. That said, I don't think he wants prospects back. He wants to pick his own prospects.

I could see Vanek walking out in return for a younger winger and a pick, but I don't think he'll pull the trigger on that.

Vanek might also end up as part of a trade for Bobby Ryan. Ryan is a right hander playing RW in Anaheim, which seems wrong. He should be on the left wing, and moving Vanek for Ryan is a good option. So just to be ambitious, I'm going to say that Vanek and Weber end up going to the Ducks for Ryan, since the Ducks look kinda light on D and Weber fits their style.


Out:

-Derek Roy

-Thomas Vanek
-Mike Weber

In:

-1st round pick
-4th round pick

-Bobby Ryan

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 08:44 AM

If we have any one of Hecht, Boyes or Gaustad on our team after july 1st im going to flip a lid.

That being said,

Sabres sign:

Gaustad
Hecht
Stempniak
Whitney

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 08:45 AM

View PostOverPowerYou, on 25 June 2012 - 08:44 AM, said:

If we have any one of Hecht, Boyes or Gaustad on our team after july 1st im going to flip a lid.

That being said,

Sabres sign:

Gaustad
Hecht
Stempniak
Whitney

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:04 AM

View Postwjag, on 25 June 2012 - 07:08 AM, said:

In

Ray Whitney, LW
Ollii Jokinen, C
Draft picks

Out

Stafford
Roy
Draft picks

If this happens I may give you all my tickets. By the way, Whitney to Buffalo would fall under the "when hell freezes over." He absolutely detests Buffalo. Then again, he's old and when money is involved, well ask teh Eagles.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:37 PM

View PostOverPowerYou, on 25 June 2012 - 08:44 AM, said:

If we have any one of Hecht, Boyes or Gaustad on our team after july 1st im going to flip a lid.

That being said,

Sabres sign:

Gaustad
Hecht
Stempniak
Whitney

That's the most nauseating scenario I've seen presented for this offseason.

That said:

Roy for Ott straight up.  I think Regier would push for more, but opts to take a lesser return on Roy rather than keeping him.
Konopka signed to center the 4th line
Mike Knuble signed to a 1 year contract

That's it.  I don't expect a big move right now, because at this point I believe they're banking on the past few drafts developing to lead them to the promised land.  Sprinkle in some veteran leadership to bridge to the next core of players, and there you have it.  As much as I'd like Ryan, I think that's the least likely scenario to add a big-time player.  If they add anyone major, I think it's Parise for an ungodly sum of money--I just don't see them flipping 3-4 high end assets for a big trade.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 01:43 PM

Out:

Leopold, McNabb and a 2nd

In:

Bobby Ryan

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 03:03 PM

Free agent signings - Justin Schultz and Semin

Trade - Vanek, Roy and Miller to the Jets for Burmistrov, Pavelec and Kane.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 11:15 PM

OUT- Luke Adam, Mike Weber

IN- Paul Gaustad, Tanner Glass, Keith Yandle

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:16 AM

In: Moss, Moen

Out: Kaleta

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 06:05 AM

View PostGhost of Dwight Drane, on 26 June 2012 - 12:16 AM, said:

In: Moss, Moen

Out: Kaleta

Travis Moen is an interesting thought.  I don't hate the idea.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 07:05 AM

Ive never seen a Darcy move that anyone ever expected.  So I'll jump in on this with a couple dark horse type moves.

In:
FA
Ryan Carter
George Parros
Matt Carle
Trade
Bobby Ryan

Out:

Roy
Sekera
Brennan
2nd rounder

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 07:25 AM

View PostGhost of Dwight Drane, on 26 June 2012 - 12:16 AM, said:

In: Moss, Moen

Out: Kaleta

I'm gonna agree with weave, I don't hate the Moen idea either, and as I said in another thread there has to be a way to make Kaleta expendable.

Randy Moss on the other hand, I'm not so sure about that retread. I'm sure his hands are still good, but he's going to have to learn how to skate which is quite the mountain to climb.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 08:22 AM

It is hard for me to separate what I want the team to do from what I predict the team will do.  But here's a try...

My gut is telling me that Grigorenko gets every chance to make it on the big club this season.  But I don't think Lindy starts him at center.  My feeling is that Grigs gets put on the wing.  IMO we have (had) a hole at wing on Vanek's line.  Grigorenko fills that hole by displacing Corey tropp.  In theory this should be an upgrade.  Additionally, as much as I'd like to see a change at the #3 center slot, I don't think it happens.  Therefore, Leino-Roy-Pommer stays intact.  That pretty much leaves 4th line center ice as the one open position left on the game day roster.  I'd like to see that slot filled by Zenon Konopka, but I'm not sure he's a Darcy/Lindy kind of player.  

So I am going to take a flyer on a guy that is a Lindy/Darcy kind of player.  He's got good size.  He's a grizzled vet.  Has a good work ethic.  Plays a defensively responsible game.  Former captain of his team.  Probably sign for about $1M.  Pretty good PK guy.  Pretty good faceoff guy too.

Jeff Halpern.  Brings leadership, character, a good defensive game.  Has enough skill to be a good temporary up line injury fill in at center.  He's what Matt Ellis would have been if Ellis had any talent at all.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 09:09 AM

Roy to Ottawa for Foligno and a pick

Jason Arnott to Buffalo for around 2.25mil for 1-2yrs.  He is our 3/4th line center. Good depth guy with veteran leadership who is physicaly large but won't be bone crushing.

Thats all I see happening.  If we bring in the other Foligno I hope that at some point (prob not this year) that Leino is traded.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:26 AM

Sekera, pysyk and two 1st's to Nashville for weber, weber signed long term.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:39 PM

View PostHank, on 26 June 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

Sekera, pysyk and two 1st's to Nashville for weber, weber signed long term.

I know I didn't put in only one entry per poster, but......

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:07 PM



Completely separate trade with different players going out. Combine the two if you wish, or disqualify me if you think it's appropriate. Didn't mean to overstep, apologies...

Edited by Hank, 26 June 2012 - 01:08 PM.


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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:22 PM

View PostHank, on 26 June 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

Completely separate trade with different players going out. Combine the two if you wish, or disqualify me if you think it's appropriate. Didn't mean to overstep, apologies...

No harm, no foul. Just a fun thing. They will be combined.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 03:14 PM

Grigorenko makes the big squad.

The team looks for a deal including Roy but the 'right' deal isn't there in the off-season.

The Sabres pick up a 4th line faceoff specialist not nicknamed Goose in either a trade for a minor prospect or more likely as a street FA.  (Sorry, been too busy to figure out who might be available.  Not that it would matter if I won the tix as I've already got my own and would donate 'em.  Not that I even meant to imply that I would win 'em, but you know what I mean. :beer:  )

Lines look something like this to start the year:

Grigorenko - Hodgson - Vanek
Foligno - Ennis - Stafford
Leino - Roy - Pominville
Gerbe - FA C - Kaleta

Regehr - Sekera
Leopold - Myers
Ehrhoff - Sulzer

Spares - McCormick, Weber

McNabb pulled up as soon as there's an injury in the top 6 or Sulzer falters.
Tropp/Adam pulled up to play on Vanek - Hodgson line if/when the chemistry of the top lines don't work out.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:23 PM

Hey Tom,

Been thinking on this.

Quick question before I post my thoughts ... is it limited to players moving in and out? ...  :ph34r:  ...

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:26 PM

View PostSabres Fan In NS, on 26 June 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

Hey Tom,

Been thinking on this.

Quick question before I post my thoughts ... is it limited to players moving in and out? ...  :ph34r:  ...

Me likey!

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:42 PM

View PostSabres Fan In NS, on 26 June 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

Hey Tom,

Been thinking on this.

Quick question before I post my thoughts ... is it limited to players moving in and out? ...  :ph34r:  ...

No

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 05:15 PM

View PostTaro T, on 26 June 2012 - 03:14 PM, said:

Grigorenko makes the big squad.

The team looks for a deal including Roy but the 'right' deal isn't there in the off-season.

The Sabres pick up a 4th line faceoff specialist not nicknamed Goose in either a trade for a minor prospect or more likely as a street FA.  (Sorry, been too busy to figure out who might be available.  Not that it would matter if I won the tix as I've already got my own and would donate 'em.  Not that I even meant to imply that I would win 'em, but you know what I mean. :beer:  )

Lines look something like this to start the year:

Grigorenko - Hodgson - Vanek
Foligno - Ennis - Stafford
Leino - Roy - Pominville
Gerbe - FA C - Kaleta

Regehr - Sekera
Leopold - Myers
Ehrhoff - Sulzer

Spares - McCormick, Weber

McNabb pulled up as soon as there's an injury in the top 6 or Sulzer falters.
Tropp/Adam pulled up to play on Vanek - Hodgson line if/when the chemistry of the top lines don't work out.

So basically, you are predicting the same thing I am without actually stating who the new 4th line center is?  :P

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 05:27 PM

View Postweave, on 26 June 2012 - 05:15 PM, said:

So basically, you are predicting the same thing I am without actually stating who the new 4th line center is?  :P
C'mon, you know darn well that you aren't slotting Gerbe in at the 4th line. :P

I hadn't looked at anybody's predictions prior to posting mine, but If we're right, enjoy the game. :beer:

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 07:28 PM

View PostTaro T, on 26 June 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

C'mon, you know darn well that you aren't slotting Gerbe in at the 4th line. :P

I hadn't looked at anybody's predictions prior to posting mine, but If we're right, enjoy the game. :beer:

LOL
I'm not sure how you can win when you haven't actually predicted who the new player to the organization will be!   :nana:

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 08:54 PM

Kaleta out.

Doan in.

Nothing else.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 10:55 PM

Sabres sign Shane Doan
Derek Roy is a Sabre on opening night
Grigorenko sticks with the big team for at least 9 games

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 04:10 AM

sign Jason Arnott, and Shane Doan. Trade Stafford, Sekera, and Luke Adam for Bobby  Ryan. I also see them making ago at Shultz but coming up a bit short due to depth on the back end.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 08:22 AM

View PostSabres Fan In NS, on 26 June 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

Hey Tom,

Been thinking on this.

Quick question before I post my thoughts ... is it limited to players moving in and out? ...  :ph34r:  ...

View PostGhost of Dwight Drane, on 26 June 2012 - 04:26 PM, said:

Me likey!

Now Ghost, it looks like you are jumping to all kinds of conclusions here.  I have made it well known on the board that while I took my break from the board I turned over a new leaf and am being a good boy ... :angel: .

View Posttom webster, on 26 June 2012 - 04:42 PM, said:

No

Thanks, Tom.

Well in that case you might as well shut down the contest, as here is the winning answer ...

In = new ice at FNC.

Out = all the players when the owners lock them out on, or about, September 15, 2012.  I really hope this is not the case, but would not be too surprised.

Now Tom, since it is very unlikely I will be able to use the tickets you have generously given up for the contest please donate them to the Make A Wish Foundation, or some other charity of your choice.  Thanks.

=====

OK, all kidding aside.

The Sabres will make only one huge addition this off season.

In the last front loaded contract of the current CBA the Sabres sign Parise to the largest (dollar value) contract in the history of the NHL.

There will be other moves, but that is the one I am going with for the contest.

Edited by Sabres Fan In NS, 27 June 2012 - 08:33 AM.


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Posted 27 June 2012 - 08:31 AM

Sabres singn parenteau and shultz

trade roy for a 1st round draft pick.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 09:06 AM

In: Grigorenko, Parenteau

Out: Hecht, Boyes, Sekera


Yup.... don't see much going on this summer....

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 04:56 PM

View PostHeimdall, on 27 June 2012 - 08:31 AM, said:

Sabres singn parenteau and shultz

trade roy for a 1st round draft pick.

I would actually like this quite a bit if they could add Ott as well.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 07:28 PM

Roy stays and is third leading scorer.  Vanek is moved in next three weeks. Gerbe is Rochester captain and his fans accept reality.  Who comes in, I'm not sure. Gaustad not even thought about for coming back.  Ennis packaged in a trade, despite being best skater I've seen in years, as Darcy accepts fact he can't have the shortest and lightest players in the NHL on his team in a big man's league.  All this is LOL.  -----  I don't need the tiks.

Edited by fan2456, 27 June 2012 - 07:52 PM.