331 replies to this topic

[Spndnchz]

IMHO He makes the team in 2012-13

[d4rksabre]

Mogilny part Deux

[Taro T]

Yes!

[ThirtyEight]

If Grigs doesn't work out, i doubt DR ever drafts outside NA again

[TrueBluePhD]

@fakedarcy Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall. We're back in business with the Russians! #Sabres

[BRAWNDO]

Great Move

[BuffaloSoldier2010]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[IKnowPhysics]

Good stuff.  All hail Russia.

With 2 1st round picks and no one to trade to, why not take the Russian gamble a little?  He'll add something we need: size up the middle.  Bonus:  Sabres jersey has his name stitched on it, maybe they had always considered him.

[JJFIVEOH]

Just what we need, to wait another 2 years to address our size at center.

[Robviously]

Eleven, on 22 June 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

Last time the Sabres took a Russian in the first?

The Artem Kruikov nightmare?

[Chris_in_UT]

WHOOOOO!!!!

6' 3", 200 pounds.

talented as hell.

holy sh** ... i can't stop smiling.

[d4rksabre]

JJFIVEOH, on 22 June 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

Just what we need, to wait another 2 years to address our size at center.

Shut up, this is a great pick.

[sabres26]

When will he be NHL ready ??

[IKnowPhysics]

In soviet Russia, PICKS draft YOU!

[Potato]

Vodka for everyone!  I'm going to the kitchen to make some borscht.

[BuffaloSoldier2010]

So happy to have grigs, gonna be a great player for us.  He really could be the steal of the draft

[d4rksabre]

Asking the bartender for a shot of vodka right now!

[Claude_Verret]

Nice

[weave]

High risk, high reward, right?  Not a typical Darcy-type decision.

[cdexchange]

Very exciting!

[weave]

http://www.hockeypro...?articleid=1333

Quote

Wrapping this up now, I'll say this in a more summarized form:

Grigorenko is a clear top-two talent in the 2012 draft class. Based on scouts that I've talked to, my own observations and other observers throughout a good portion of the draft year, this seemed to be a shared thought. Grigorenko's on-ice work ethic problems have never been anything new, yet were never considered anything major enough to truly devalue him. It looked very accentuated towards the end of the season, however I'm skeptical of using that kind of sample to assess a player. It should be noted during an evaluation of him and used as a clear debit, but considering all the other tremendous qualities he possesses, I don't buy the argument Grigorenko isn't anything short of an elite prospect.

I'll admit right here and now, I have concerns about how well Lindy meshes with this kid.  But damn it sure is nice to hear about elite level talent coming to Buffalo.

[nobody]

Grigorenko is from Alex Mogilny's hometown.

[BRAWNDO]

Just listened to his interview on GR, said he feels sorry from the teams that did pass on him.

[Robviously]

weave, on 22 June 2012 - 08:15 PM, said:

http://www.hockeypro...?articleid=1333



I'll admit right here and now, I have concerns about how well Lindy meshes with this kid.  But damn it sure is nice to hear about elite level talent coming to Buffalo.

Oh crap, you're right.  I doubt Lindy's "I'm a super badass" style will go over well with a Russian who may or may not have attitude problems.

[inkman]

I'm a little drunk but the interview made me well up a bit.

[ThirtyEight]

Any links to this interview?

[Spndnchz]

Audio vault on GR.

So they compare themselves to Malkin and Kesler. Nice.

[X. Benedict]

Top shelf, where momma hides the zaedkami!

nobody, on 22 June 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

Grigorenko is from Alex Mogilny's hometown.

Sew an 89 on that sweater.

JJFIVEOH, on 22 June 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

Just what we need, to wait another 2 years to address our size at center.

Don't be surprised if he's in the NHL this year.

[IKnowPhysics]

I wonder if Grigorenko could skate next year.  Darcy said that he didn't think expect that we'd be taking a player that would make an impact next year.  But could he have seen Grigorenko, considered by Hockey Prospectus to be the 2nd best talent available in the draft, fall to our pick at 12th?  Who could've predicted the run of 8 defensemen in the first ten picks?

Edited by IKnowPhysics, 22 June 2012 - 09:02 PM.

[Potato]

A nice article on Grigs (and Russian players in general):
http://sports.yahoo....08138--nhl.html

[weave]

X. Benedict, on 22 June 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:

Top shelf, where momma hides the zaedkami!

I laughed.

BRAWNDO, on 22 June 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

Just listened to his interview on GR, said he feels sorry from the teams that did pass on him.

In Soviet Russia, player drafts you!

[papazoid]

cental combine ranked him #3 overall:


http://www.tsn.ca/dr...ature/?id=62970

[nobody]

“I liked this team,” he said. “They talked to me a lot, and I really liked this organization. I talked with them during the few seasons a few times, at the combines and here before the draft [Thursday]."

Darcy did a good job of keeping this close to the vest.

[JWell]

Great job!

[TrueBluePhD]

nobody, on 22 June 2012 - 09:16 PM, said:

“I liked this team,” he said. “They talked to me a lot, and I really liked this organization. I talked with them during the few seasons a few times, at the combines and here before the draft [Thursday]."

Darcy did a good job of keeping this close to the vest.

This is probably going to come off as more snarky than I intend it, but here goes.  Next time anybody freaks out over something Ruff, Regier, Black, Pegula...really anybody involved with the organization says, just remember this.  What they say in public is zero indication of what goes on behind closed doors.

[Taro T]

nobody, on 22 June 2012 - 09:16 PM, said:

“I liked this team,” he said. “They talked to me a lot, and I really liked this organization. I talked with them during the few seasons a few times, at the combines and here before the draft [Thursday]."

Darcy did a good job of keeping this close to the vest.

That's an understatement.  I didn't hear either the Devine nor Regier GR interviews this week, but the GR guys made it sound like they basically said there was no way in the world that they'd grab a Russian.

I guess those guys just misinterpreted it, what the Sabres' brass were actually saying was there was no way they'd draft only 1 kid with Soviet parents.

[SwampD]

TrueBluePhD, on 22 June 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

This is probably going to come off as more snarky than I intend it, but here goes.  Next time anybody freaks out over something Ruff, Regier, Black, Pegula...really anybody involved with the organization says, just remember this.  What they say in public is zero indication of what goes on behind closed doors.

I hope this doesn't come across as snarky either but it don't mean sch!t until they start winning.

[shrader]

It's been a busy day, so I'll keep it short. LOVE IT!

[TrueBluePhD]

SwampD, on 22 June 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

I hope this doesn't come across as snarky either but it don't mean sch!t until they start winning.

Not snarky at all, a simple statement of fact.  I'd still like them to improve the current roster (particularly getting a RW upgrade over Tropp), but I have significantly more hope for the future now than I did this afternoon.

[Taro T]

shrader, on 22 June 2012 - 09:24 PM, said:

It's been a busy day, so I'll keep it short. LOVE IT!

Regier does seem to be getting the hang of these drafts lately.  The one piece of the Regier / Devine comments I heard this week was Devine stating that they were reluctant to give up the 21st to upgrade the 12th when the player they were looking at might fall to them at 12.  Very prescient.

If Roy is still here on October 1, I will still be EXTREMELY disappointed and if not calling for Mr. Regier's head at least calling for him to bring in a Rick Dudley type to help w/ the veteran talent portion of the job.