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[nobody]

I've heard/seen multiple mentions over this draft mentioning the new scouts which led to some of these picks.

[shrader]

Ghost of Dwight Drane, on 23 June 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:

Stock it up.

Gergenson looks ready NOW! I think he could have taken out the entire Sabres Brass on stage.

If he does go to Vermont (major junior has been pushing for him), he won't even be at camp.

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

shrader, on 23 June 2012 - 01:31 PM, said:

If he does go to Vermont (major junior has been pushing for him), he won't even be at camp.

He has the body of a 25 year old though. I'd be more apt to think this guy was faking his age than Grigorenko

Edited by Ghost of Dwight Drane, 23 June 2012 - 02:19 PM.

[Sabres Fan In NS]

I appreciate that this thread is about the Sabres, but I was looking over the whole draft this morning and ...

... under the rich get richer heading ... Detroit picked Martin Frk with the #49 pick.  Frk plays for Halifax in the Q, therefore I am very familiar with him.  He will be a good one.

[deluca67]

nobody, on 23 June 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

I've heard/seen multiple mentions over this draft mentioning the new scouts which led to some of these picks.

Maybe they just read Sports Illustrated, Pierre McGuire had the top 2 Sabres' picks listed as his top 2 "Wild Cards" in this year's draft.

[Eleven]

DeLuca67, on 24 June 2012 - 06:51 AM, said:

Maybe they just read Sports Illustrated, Pierre McGuire had the top 2 Sabres' picks listed as his top 2 "Wild Cards" in this year's draft.

I'd like to read that but can't find it.  Share a link?

[deluca67]

Eleven, on 24 June 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

I'd like to read that but can't find it.  Share a link?

I have it delivered. I looked on the website and couldn't find it. It's in this weeks edition page #38.

He basically says:

Grigorenko - Concerns over his intensity will cause him to fall in the middle of the draft.

Girgensons - Needs to mature physically.

[tom webster]

DeLuca67, on 24 June 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

I have it delivered. I looked on the website and couldn't find it. It's in this weeks edition page #38.

He basically says:

Grigorenko - Concerns over his intensity will cause him to fall in the middle of the draft.

Girgensons - Needs to mature physically.

Like Ghost said, his body looks like that of a 25 year old. Hard to believe that "needs to mature physically" is his one draw back.

[TrueBluePhD]

tom webster, on 24 June 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

Like Ghost said, his body looks like that of a 25 year old. Hard to believe that "needs to mature physically" is his one draw back.

It was written by Pierre McGuire....

[Robviously]

DeLuca67, on 24 June 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

I have it delivered. I looked on the website and couldn't find it. It's in this weeks edition page #38.

He basically says:

Grigorenko - Concerns over his intensity will cause him to fall in the middle of the draft.

Girgensons - Needs to mature physically.

tom webster, on 24 June 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

Like Ghost said, his body looks like that of a 25 year old. Hard to believe that "needs to mature physically" is his one draw back.

He looks really strong for an 18 year old but he'll need to continue bulking up if he wants to be a physical presence in the NHL where everyone is big.  Plus, everyone (not just pro athletes) gets thicker and stronger as they move from teenager to adult (even while staying in shape) so some of it is just going to be time.

As for Grigorenko, obviously some of his 'intensity' issues were due to the mono but I'm guessing some of them were due to being in a totally new country and trying to learn two new languages and fit in during his first QMJHL season (all as an awkward teenager, BTW).

[Taro T]

DeLuca67, on 24 June 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

I have it delivered. I looked on the website and couldn't find it. It's in this weeks edition page #38.

He basically says:

Grigorenko - Concerns over his intensity will cause him to fall in the middle of the draft.

Girgensons - Needs to mature physically.

  Pg 38 is a full page (text) Viagra ad.

[deluca67]

Taro T, on 24 June 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

  Pg 38 is a full page (text) Viagra ad.

Look in SI not SSI.

[Taro T]

DeLuca67, on 24 June 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

Look in SI not SSI.

June 18, 2012 SI pg 38 is a Viagra ad.

[deluca67]

Taro T, on 24 June 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

June 18, 2012 SI pg 38 is a Viagra ad.

Sorry! Thought you were making a joke.

Try the June 25th issue, pg.38 Pierre McGuire's Draft Forecast.

[Bullwinkle III]

Ghost of Dwight Drane, on 23 June 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:

Gergenson looks ready NOW! I think he could have taken out the entire Sabres Brass on stage.

Did you see Wilson on the stage with the Washington crew?  That kid is ENORMOUS!

[5th line wingnutt]

For those looking for a nick name for our 1st round picks...

What about the G-men?

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

5th line wingnutt, on 24 June 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

For those looking for a nick name for our 1st round picks...

What about the G-men?

Red Dawn

[nobody]

Both Grigs & Girgs make the list but I have no issue with either photo.

http://sports.yahoo....19055--nhl.html

[bunomatic]

nobody, on 25 June 2012 - 12:18 AM, said:

Both Grigs & Girgs make the list but I have no issue with either photo.

http://sports.yahoo....19055--nhl.html

Like Zgirgs pic. The kid looks like he has some serious confidence and attitude which this team needs. In short, a bonafide leader in waiting.

[BuffaloSoldier2010]

TrueBluePhD, on 24 June 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:

It was written by Pierre McGuire....

Finally got internet in the new apartment so this is a little late...

But I'm glad you said this TrueBlue because while watching round one and hearing Pierre say "The sabres dont have depth anywhere they need help in center, on defense and in net"  I just laughed.  Its amazing he has a job.  I feel like he just talks h]out of his ass for the most part.  That and tries to get in the Penguins pants every opportunity he gets.

[apuszczalowski]

BuffaloSoldier2010, on 25 June 2012 - 09:39 AM, said:

Finally got internet in the new apartment so this is a little late...

But I'm glad you said this TrueBlue because while watching round one and hearing Pierre say "The sabres dont have depth anywhere they need help in center, on defense and in net"  I just laughed.  Its amazing he has a job.  I feel like he just talks h]out of his ass for the most part.  That and tries to get in the Penguins pants every opportunity he gets.

Besides defence, in Rochester he is correct. They don't have much NHL caliber depth in the minors at C and Goaltender.

[Double-J]

I know I'm not a DR supporter, but surveying the landscape of other GM's makes me have some moments of "at least I'm not an __________ fan." As such, I found this to be hilarious: according to the Columbus Post-Dispatch, the Islanders reportedly offered the Blue Jackets their ENTIRE slate of 2012 draft picks to move up from #4 to #2. And Columbus...turned them down. I'm not sure which side is more hilarious/tragic.

...wow.

[dEnnis the Menace]

Double-J, on 25 June 2012 - 10:58 AM, said:

I know I'm not a DR supporter, but surveying the landscape of other GM's makes me have some moments of "at least I'm not an __________ fan." As such, I found this to be hilarious: according to the Columbus Post-Dispatch, the Islanders reportedly offered the Blue Jackets their ENTIRE slate of 2012 draft picks to move up from #4 to #2. And Columbus...turned them down. I'm not sure which side is more hilarious/tragic.

...wow.

And the Islanders proceeded to draft all defensemen!  wow!

[Eleven]

Double-J, on 25 June 2012 - 10:58 AM, said:

I know I'm not a DR supporter, but surveying the landscape of other GM's makes me have some moments of "at least I'm not an __________ fan." As such, I found this to be hilarious: according to the Columbus Post-Dispatch, the Islanders reportedly offered the Blue Jackets their ENTIRE slate of 2012 draft picks to move up from #4 to #2. And Columbus...turned them down. I'm not sure which side is more hilarious/tragic.

...wow.

If that's true, and since it's the Islanders, well, it's pretty likely that it is, I'm with you:  neither team knew what they were doing with this one.

[d4rksabre]

Eleven, on 25 June 2012 - 11:42 AM, said:

If that's true, and since it's the Islanders, well, it's pretty likely that it is, I'm with you:  neither team knew what they were doing with this one.

I'm not saying anything about the Islanders until we stop losing to them.

[SwampD]

d4rksabre, on 25 June 2012 - 11:45 AM, said:

I'm not saying anything about the Islanders until we stop losing to them.

[apuszczalowski]

Double-J, on 25 June 2012 - 10:58 AM, said:

I know I'm not a DR supporter, but surveying the landscape of other GM's makes me have some moments of "at least I'm not an __________ fan." As such, I found this to be hilarious: according to the Columbus Post-Dispatch, the Islanders reportedly offered the Blue Jackets their ENTIRE slate of 2012 draft picks to move up from #4 to #2. And Columbus...turned them down. I'm not sure which side is more hilarious/tragic.

...wow.

There had to be more to the deal then that, I don't think its possible that there could be 2 GMs in the league that bad (Snow for offering, and Howson for turning it down). I ccould see the deal being the Islanders trading for the #2 spot using all of their picks except for the #4 (so they pick #2 and #4). Either that or the Islanders were REALLY high (I was gonna continue that with "on Murray", but figured it was better to just stop there)

Just read the comments after the article, seems almost all the CBJ fans are glad he didn't make the deal because they feel Murray could possibly step in right away instead of having to develop Reinhart, and the rest of the picks are basically prospects who have little chance of making an impact in the NHL. If the fans think like their GM does, I can understand why no one is successful in getting Nash yet, they probably want only #1 picks because the rest are just guys that won't make the NHL

Edited by apuszczalowski, 25 June 2012 - 12:01 PM.

[Spndnchz]

Dumb and Dummer.

[ThirtyEight]

The Islanders are morons; however, CBJ are worse. How could they resist the opportunity? It was a defence heavy draft anyway...I (along with the rest of the world) don't understand how Howson still has a job! If he would not accept all those picks to drop down two spaces, imagine what he wants for Nash o-O

[nobody]

ThirtyEight, on 25 June 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

The Islanders are morons; however, CBJ are worse. How could they resist the opportunity? It was a defence heavy draft anyway...I (along with the rest of the world) don't understand how Howson still has a job! If he would not accept all those picks to drop down two spaces, imagine what he wants for Nash o-O

At least now we know there is at least one GM that overvalues his assets more than Darcy.

[Double-J]

apuszczalowski, on 25 June 2012 - 11:55 AM, said:

Just read the comments after the article, seems almost all the CBJ fans are glad he didn't make the deal because they feel Murray could possibly step in right away instead of having to develop Reinhart, and the rest of the picks are basically prospects who have little chance of making an impact in the NHL. If the fans think like their GM does, I can understand why no one is successful in getting Nash yet, they probably want only #1 picks because the rest are just guys that won't make the NHL

I think this one is my favorite: "If we had a scouting staff like the Red Wings who are very successful and knew what they were doing, Then it might've been worth taking the picks. But since we have the Keystone cops led by Bozo the clown, it was probably a good idea to turn down the trade."