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#1681 OverPowerYou

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 08:40 AM

View Postshrader, on 24 May 2012 - 08:10 AM, said:



And as for the questions about MSG, the one thing I took away from that place was how strangely dark it was in the seating bowl.

It also seems strangely dark when watching on tv. Its like you can't see the fans while watching television. I also noticed that there's no fans directly in front of the glass, they have some kind of weird walk way..... Oh well, I could never imagine not calling a place other than FNC home.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 10:21 AM

The devils got very lucky last night and Prolly shouldn't have squeaked that win out. A fortunate 3 goal lead early on should all but seal it,  but they were not playing good at all.  I give the rags full credit for the effort tho.  

Im quite surprised at the playoffs in general. Philly. Crushes pitt then get crushed by jersey. While jersey barely handled Florida.  And the rangers may be burnt out if they do make a comeback,  squeaking by Ottawa and Washington of all teams.  And who pegged the kings to demolish the west,  I know I sure didn't.  


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Posted 24 May 2012 - 10:46 AM

You are right. It has been a very weird playoffs this year. I liked the Kings in the West but I didn't expect them to play as well as they did.

The East just makes no sense. I almost think New York just fooled a lot of people into thinking they were a team that they're not. Their defensive style helped them kill it during the regular season, but it seems to be letting them down in the playoffs. If New York does get to the finals they're going to have a hard time with LA.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 11:32 AM

Agreed,  I honestly don't see either ny or nj beating the kings,  but then again stranger things have happened.   I really thought Nashville or st. Louis would come outta the west.

I am glad to see some different matchups in the finals,  I was getting sick of pitt,  detroit lol

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 02:42 PM

View Postshrader, on 24 May 2012 - 08:10 AM, said:

Common sense also says that allowing a guy with a sharp piece of steel on his foot to freely kick at something near a goalie is a recipe for disaster.


Exactly.  It's a pretty obvious safety issue.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 03:01 PM

View Postmillbank, on 23 May 2012 - 09:24 PM, said:

Has anyone attended game a Madison Square Garden, how does it compare to a Sabre game. Is it loud , fun atmosphere?

It was loud the one time I went. The Blueshirts put 3-4 past Miller in the first 10 minutes. After that it was kinda quiet since not much happened. I think the Sabres put one in in the 2nd or 3rd.

Other people have said: yes, it's very dark in there, both the ice and the seats. And the ice surface isn't right up to the seats, and the seats start on the high side. I'd guess it was originally built for a smaller ice surface but the had to expand it to meet NHL rules.

Other things: the ceiling uses an interesting sagging construction, so the center is far lower than the edges. Also, the ice surface is a few floors above street level.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 03:23 PM

View Postcdexchange, on 24 May 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:

Exactly.  It's a pretty obvious safety issue.

It still doesn't explain why a goal counts if you kick it in off your shin as opposed your skate, since the skate is still doing the same movement.  If I'm trying to kick in a puck and it lifts off the ice...I'm still kicking at it, the skate is still in a kicking motion, it just goes off a different part of the leg, but it's no less dangerous of a play.  Yet, that is perfectly OK within the letter of the rules.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 03:54 PM

View PostTrueBluePhD, on 24 May 2012 - 03:23 PM, said:

It still doesn't explain why a goal counts if you kick it in off your shin as opposed your skate, since the skate is still doing the same movement.  If I'm trying to kick in a puck and it lifts off the ice...I'm still kicking at it, the skate is still in a kicking motion, it just goes off a different part of the leg, but it's no less dangerous of a play.  Yet, that is perfectly OK within the letter of the rules.

I think it comes down to player actions. If you allow kicked in goals, you're going to have players *trying* to kick the puck into the net fairly often. I think the shin pad bunt is a low percentage percentage play, few are going to try it often. But kicking at a puck that's laying on the ice will just have skate blades flying about since it happens more often.

But I'd disallow the bunt too, just cause it makes more sense.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 08:49 PM

If you're a Kings fan, you have to hope the time off doesn't halt their momentum.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 10:14 PM

View PostDeLuca67, on 24 May 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:

If you're a Kings fan, you have to hope the time off doesn't halt their momentum.

It hasn't been a problem so far.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 10:44 PM

View Postd4rksabre, on 24 May 2012 - 10:14 PM, said:

It hasn't been a problem so far.

You mean for the Kings fan?  (Yeah, I used the singular there.)

Seriously, that team is probably winning it all on Quick's back.  And there will be 8,000 legit fans and about 2,000,000 bandwagoners celebrating it.

As for Quick, Sochi 2014.  Let's go, buddy.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 04:57 AM

View PostEleven, on 24 May 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

You mean for the Kings fan?  (Yeah, I used the singular there.)

Seriously, that team is probably winning it all on Quick's back.  And there will be 8,000 legit fans and about 2,000,000 bandwagoners celebrating it.

As for Quick, Sochi 2014.  Let's go, buddy.
I've always been a Kings fan 2nd to the Sabres, I have to say I'm genuinely pleased for them. While they are no doubt a talented team I agree, this is largely Quicks doing.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 07:30 AM

View PostEleven, on 24 May 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

You mean for the Kings fan?  (Yeah, I used the singular there.)

Seriously, that team is probably winning it all on Quick's back.  And there will be 8,000 legit fans and about 2,000,000 bandwagoners celebrating it.

http://www.dailymoti...kers-fans_sport

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 08:03 AM

View PostEleven, on 24 May 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

You mean for the Kings fan?  (Yeah, I used the singular there.)

Seriously, that team is probably winning it all on Quick's back.  And there will be 8,000 legit fans and about 2,000,000 bandwagoners celebrating it.

As for Quick, Sochi 2014.  Let's go, buddy.

Just like every other team that has ever done well at any point.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 08:52 AM

Quicks been great but from what I've seen and I've watched their entire run he hasn't single handedly stolen the show. Its been a team effort across the board for L.A.  Sure without Quick they're likely not where they are but its too easy to simply discount what his team mates have done and lay all the credit on him.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:11 AM

View Postbunomatic, on 25 May 2012 - 08:52 AM, said:

Quicks been great but from what I've seen and I've watched their entire run he hasn't single handedly stolen the show. Its been a team effort across the board for L.A.  Sure without Quick they're likely not where they are but its too easy to simply discount what his team mates have done and lay all the credit on him.

Agreed. It has been very much a team effort. Guys like Richards and Carter are awake at the right time, as well as Doughty and Brown.

Their star players are playing like they are star players.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:26 AM

View Postd4rksabre, on 25 May 2012 - 09:11 AM, said:

Agreed. It has been very much a team effort. Guys like Richards and Carter are awake at the right time, as well as Doughty and Brown.

Their star players are playing like they are star players.
yea that Brad Dohtee guy is great!

Speaking of him HE WAS PISSSED! when he got those penaltys and that bs offside call.  I wish someone on the sabres would flip like that, instead the sabres are like a 75yr old who can't find his viagara even though the Maxim supermodels are drinking by his pool.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:05 PM

View Postbunomatic, on 25 May 2012 - 08:52 AM, said:

Quicks been great but from what I've seen and I've watched their entire run he hasn't single handedly stolen the show. Its been a team effort across the board for L.A.  Sure without Quick they're likely not where they are but its too easy to simply discount what his team mates have done and lay all the credit on him.
Not to take anything away from Quick, he is definitly part of the reason the teams there, but theres a reason why Bernier has also looked good when he played during the regular seasons too, the team in front is also pretty good. We aren't talking about the opponent they just put away, the Coyotes, who (similar to Buffalo) live and die by the play of their goalie, and rode Smith to the WCF. Quick was there to keep them in the playoff hunt when they struggled to get goals and is deserving of the vezina this year, but the Kings are where they are because the team is playing well as a team right now.

I can't believe the Devils early in the first period in the last game were able to put 3 past Lundqvist so early. The Kings have probably the best chance of beating the Kings, only cause of Lundqvist, they would need him to shut down the Kings offence and hope that they could get maybe 2 past Quick

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 02:48 PM

View PostLGR4GM, on 25 May 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

yea that Brad Dohtee guy is great!

Speaking of him HE WAS PISSSED! when he got those penaltys and that bs offside call.  I wish someone on the sabres would flip like that, instead the sabres are like a 75yr old who can't find his viagara even though the Maxim supermodels are drinking by his pool.

Derek Roy used to do that all the time and then he stopped  because it kept getting him penalties. Doughty will get his.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 08:28 PM

Where are all you schlubs???

Jeez.....Hockey Heaven my fat a$$!

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:18 PM

I was working dammit.  But now I'm intently watching the game.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:19 PM

View PostBuffaloSoldier2010, on 25 May 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

I was working dammit. But now I'm intently watching the game.

Work it

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:35 PM

View PostGhost of Dwight Drane, on 25 May 2012 - 08:28 PM, said:

Where are all you schlubs???

Jeez.....Hockey Heaven my fat a$$!

Personally I was preparing to gloat (not so much here....I'm in a hockey pool and have a side bet riding on this series).  Chickens counted.....the eggs however, have let me down.  HATCH DAMMIT!

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:48 PM

View PostTrueBluePhD, on 25 May 2012 - 09:35 PM, said:

Personally I was preparing to gloat (not so much here....I'm in a hockey pool and have a side bet riding on this series).  Chickens counted.....the eggs however, have let me down.  HATCH DAMMIT!

I went all-in on NY tonight. They've been very good to me this postseason. 7-4.

7-5

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:49 PM

busy switching channels tonight between baseball , memorial cup and nhl game. Memorial game was a semi final between Shawinnigan and St. John. Shawinnigan is Jason Pominville's former jr. team, after Sabre season this year he returned home and participated in helping prepare Shawinnigan for Memorial Cup. Shawinnigan won tonight and on Sunday will play Dale Hunters London Knights for Memorial Cup Championship.  In between periods many won $100,000 by shooting 16 pucks of 22 into net in 22 seconds.  On Sunday a man will try to win $1 million doing the same.

good news for the evening Toronto Marlies defeated Oklahoma Barons 3 - 1 , and will now play for Calder Cup Championship. The will play the Norfolk Admirals...

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:50 PM

EGGS HATCHED!  I'm now tied for the lead in my pool....the question is, do I go with who I think will win regardless of who the other guy takes, or go for the split?  Decisions.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:58 PM

The Devils are acting like they just won the Stanley Cup. L.A. is going to kick their butts. 5 games.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:01 PM

If the Kings take the first 2 games it's gonna be a sweep. if not its Kings in 6

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:05 PM

View PostOverPowerYou, on 25 May 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

The Devils are acting like they just won the Stanley Cup. L.A. is going to kick their butts. 5 games.
I was thinking the same thing. Wining a game in OT at home to make the Stanley Cup Finals and they act like this? :doh:

View Postdrnkirishone, on 25 May 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

If the Kings take the first 2 games it's gonna be a sweep. if not its Kings in 6
If any team wins the first two games on the road it is likely to be a sweep.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:08 PM

Flyers made the playoffs last game of the season a few years back and make the Cup Final

Boston was one shot away from being eliminated first round last year and won the Cup

Devils one shot away in OT VS FLA in round one, off to the Cup

Such a fine line indeed.........

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 11:14 PM

SMH @ all of those fans of teams in every league who advocate missing the playoffs if they're not a top contender. #6 v. #8 this year. Damn, could have been us.

ALWAYS do whatever it takes to get in. ALWAYS.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 11:31 PM

View PostTheMatrix31, on 25 May 2012 - 11:14 PM, said:

SMH @ all of those fans of teams in every league who advocate missing the playoffs if they're not a top contender. #6 v. #8 this year. Damn, could have been us.

ALWAYS do whatever it takes to get in. ALWAYS.

Darcy was finally right about something!

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 11:55 PM

View PostTheMatrix31, on 25 May 2012 - 11:14 PM, said:

SMH @ all of those fans of teams in every league who advocate missing the playoffs if they're not a top contender. #6 v. #8 this year. Damn, could have been us.

ALWAYS do whatever it takes to get in. ALWAYS.

  I still maintain this team ain't built for the playoffs. Too many passengers.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:02 AM

View PostDeLuca67, on 25 May 2012 - 10:05 PM, said:

If any team wins the first two games on the road it is likely to be a sweep.

Well the kings have done it in every series so far and only swept one of them.


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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:30 AM

View PostDeLuca67, on 25 May 2012 - 10:05 PM, said:

If any team wins the first two games on the road it is likely to be a sweep.
I would be interested to see the numbers but i doubt its likely. Thinking it is more 50/50

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 01:47 AM

tbh im just happy it isn't the rangers playing for stanley.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 02:30 AM

View PostHeimdall, on 26 May 2012 - 01:47 AM, said:

tbh im just happy it isn't the rangers playing for stanley.

  And we don't have to see Messiers ugly mug any more.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 02:38 AM

I hope Johnny Quick skates down the ice and punches that fat clod Brodeur in the mouth.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 04:11 AM

Isn't this going to be the first time that a team lower than 5th place in their conference wins the stanley cup?

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 06:18 AM

View PostOverPowerYou, on 25 May 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

The Devils are acting like they just won the Stanley Cup. L.A. is going to kick their butts. 5 games.

Are you serious? Do you recall Sabres celebration after Plante's goal?