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Posted 28 February 2012 - 03:02 PM

View PostLabattBlue, on 28 February 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

I though the Sabres were at the 50 contract max?

49 now.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 03:43 PM

View PostLGR4GM, on 28 February 2012 - 01:38 AM, said:

Well after editing it down a bit and leaving the bolded part for the end...

I would guess that McNabb may be odd man out to start the season and then work his way in from their.  Weber has settled his game down nicely and is playing the best hockey of his career right now.  Whether or not that translates to next season who knows but if he is our 6th or 7th its better than MAG being here still.

I think as far as the rest of the defense goes, we do have several #2 and a couple #3 dmen and that imho equates to a #1 guy.  Myers, Ehrhoff, and Regehr are #2 guys in my book. Myers needs to show up at the beginning of the year next year though instead of the end.  Sekera has quietly been having a very solid season.  He goes out, does his job, and comes off.  No complaints with his game really.  Leo and Weber both bring different things but have good qualities as well.

Now as for the bolded part... That sentence makes absolutely no sense and I will explain why I believe that.  Darcy for all his faults is not an idiot.  He traded Kassian for Hodgson so that Hodgson would be our #1 center long term.  Going out now to acquire that is counter productive because in Darcy's mind that guy is on the team now.  As long as Ennis continues his truly amazing play at center than I see no reason at this current moment in time to waste money on a center except to fill the void on the 4th line.   The offseason should be used to acquire a bit of grit (Dustin Brown would be nice) but acquiring a #1 center for long term was just accomplished even if we have to wait 2-3 years for him to become that.  I say this because I personally think that is how regier views the situation.


On a side note a was reading some of the other posts and just so everyone is aware Tyler Ennis and Pat Kaleta are RFA's and with 57million already tied up in players for next season it will take probably around 4-5mil to resign them both.  Adding in Adam and Tropp/Foligno (hopefully) as replacements for Boyes and Goose leaves you roughly with about 2-3million in cap space + whatever the cap goes up by... this means Parise is not in the cards unless we trade something else away.  Also Brown (or a player like him) is not in the cards unless the cap goes up enough or we again trade something away.  Food for thought.

My Roster for 2012-2013

Vanek - Hodgson - Pommers
Leino - Ennis - Stafford
Gerbe - Roy - Tropp?
Ellis/Foligno - Adam/McCormick - Kaleta


Myers, Ehrhoff, Regehr
Sekera, Leopold, Weber
McNabb

Miller - Enroth
1st off, there is no ###### way it will cost $5MM to bring Kaleta and Ennis back into the fold next year.  (It won't cost $4MM either.  Try more like $3MM or slightly less.)

2nd, it makes no sense to bring McNabb up at the beginning of the year to have him sit in the stands.  It does make sense to put him there later in the year when he has the inevitable mid-year rookie slump.

3rdI haven't seen enough of Hodgson to state where he tops out at, but most of what I have read has him at #2 LT.  It is premature to pencil in a rookie at #1 for the LT, and it would also be premature to assume that Ennis will top out at a #1 or #2 as a center based on less than 20 games at the spot.

I hope one of those 2 can grow into the #1 spot and be a true #1.  Simply being the best center on this roster does not make a player a #1 center.  I expect the odds are greater that they'll be #2's.  (And the B's have shown that if you have enough #2's, you don't need a true #1.)

And, you are going out on a limb stating that Hodgson will be THE #1.  If you are automatically giving Hodgson the #1 slot in 2 years because Regier brought him in to be that guy, don't you have to wait for Leino to stop running that spot (as that's what he was brought in to do)?  Even if he was brought in for that role, recent history with Timmy, Derek, and Ville indicate that Regier has left something to be desired in way of finding and landing a true #1.  The Canucks have a plethora of centers and wanted a tough wing to complement those centers.  The Sabres, while having a dearth of tough top 2 line wings, have a glut of 2nd line wingers and have very little in the way of centers.  If Hodgson can be a solid #2, unless Kassian grows into being either a Lucic (or worse a Neely), the Sabres will have at minimum broke even on the deal.  The league (and the AHL and Europe and beer leagues all over North America) is littered with guys that were Calder Trophy contenders and then couldn't advance their game the way their fellow rookies improved.  I hope he does grow into a formidible #1, but it sounds like he more likely will be a more than servicable #2 that can fill in for a stretch.  And, as long as Roy is on the roster, I want to see a 1st line center on this roster that can take the 'leadership' role away from Derek.  Ennis can't do that, and most likely neither can a slow footed rookie.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 03:53 PM

I know there have been some questions about the cap next year and I thought this article does the best job speculating.





http://spectorshocke...nhl-salary-cap/

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 03:59 PM

View PostTaro T, on 28 February 2012 - 03:43 PM, said:

1st off, there is no ###### way it will cost $5MM to bring Kaleta and Ennis back into the fold next year.  (It won't cost $4MM either.  Try more like $3MM or slightly less.)

2nd, it makes no sense to bring McNabb up at the beginning of the year to have him sit in the stands.  It does make sense to put him there later in the year when he has the inevitable mid-year rookie slump.

3rdI haven't seen enough of Hodgson to state where he tops out at, but most of what I have read has him at #2 LT.  It is premature to pencil in a rookie at #1 for the LT, and it would also be premature to assume that Ennis will top out at a #1 or #2 as a center based on less than 20 games at the spot.

I hope one of those 2 can grow into the #1 spot and be a true #1.  Simply being the best center on this roster does not make a player a #1 center.  I expect the odds are greater that they'll be #2's.  (And the B's have shown that if you have enough #2's, you don't need a true #1.)

And, you are going out on a limb stating that Hodgson will be THE #1.  If you are automatically giving Hodgson the #1 slot in 2 years because Regier brought him in to be that guy, don't you have to wait for Leino to stop running that spot (as that's what he was brought in to do)?  Even if he was brought in for that role, recent history with Timmy, Derek, and Ville indicate that Regier has left something to be desired in way of finding and landing a true #1.  The Canucks have a plethora of centers and wanted a tough wing to complement those centers.  The Sabres, while having a dearth of tough top 2 line wings, have a glut of 2nd line wingers and have very little in the way of centers.  If Hodgson can be a solid #2, unless Kassian grows into being either a Lucic (or worse a Neely), the Sabres will have at minimum broke even on the deal.  The league (and the AHL and Europe and beer leagues all over North America) is littered with guys that were Calder Trophy contenders and then couldn't advance their game the way their fellow rookies improved.  I hope he does grow into a formidible #1, but it sounds like he more likely will be a more than servicable #2 that can fill in for a stretch.  And, as long as Roy is on the roster, I want to see a 1st line center on this roster that can take the 'leadership' role away from Derek.  Ennis can't do that, and most likely neither can a slow footed rookie.
I figured Ennis at 2.5mil and Kaleta at 1.5 and thats how i get 4mil... I don't see either of them getting money similar to Cody McCormick and I see ennis making more than gerbe.

As for the rest, if you have good enough wingers you can make a good #2 into a solid #1 and Pommers and Vanek could be good enough.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 04:03 PM

View PostSDS, on 28 February 2012 - 11:53 AM, said:

Could someone please explain the scenario that would entice a team to take on a $4M/yr salary for the next 3 YEARS for a guy that is fallen so far out of favor?

The only thing I can think of is taking on a larger salaried, shorter term albatross in return that can be buried in Rochester. I just don't see it happening o matter how hard y'all wish.

The scenario is the trading deadline, which has now ended -- as has the Sabres' chances of unloading Stafford before February 2013.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 04:11 PM

View Postnfreeman, on 28 February 2012 - 04:03 PM, said:

The scenario is the trading deadline, which has now ended -- as has the Sabres' chances of unloading Stafford before February 2013.

That is not a scenario - that is a wish.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 04:21 PM

View PostLGR4GM, on 28 February 2012 - 03:59 PM, said:

I figured Ennis at 2.5mil and Kaleta at 1.5 and thats how i get 4mil... I don't see either of them getting money similar to Cody McCormick and I see ennis making more than gerbe.

As for the rest, if you have good enough wingers you can make a good #2 into a solid #1 and Pommers and Vanek could be good enough.

Getting in right around 2/3 of a season if he's lucky, do you really see Kaleta nearly doubling his salary?  His number have steadily declined over the course of this contract.  He's not going to get a big boost.  I really can't see him getting much more than his one year qualifying offer.

As for Ennis, this year probably set him back a bit.  He'll probably be a prime candidate for a short contract at a slight raise, attempting to earn that next big contract.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 04:24 PM

View PostSDS, on 28 February 2012 - 04:11 PM, said:

That is not a scenario - that is a wish.

The same could be said about getting a #1 for 20 games worth of a 10-goal center who can't skate, shoot or pass.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 04:30 PM

View PostLabattBlue, on 28 February 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

I though the Sabres were at the 50 contract max?

They have about seven expiring contracts like Kotalik, etc.  Plus 18 and 19-year-old players assigned to their team in the CHL do not count against the 50-contract maximum, until they have played at least 11 NHL games in one season.

They can still have up to 90 in their reserve list.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 04:44 PM

I see something bigger happening next season than what many have posted.

The activity will happen prior to the draft.  

My first thought...I wonder if the Sabres tank it to close the season and get a top 3 pick.  The top 3 on the draft board are players who could step right in and play.

I see them trading Miller in the offseason as part of a trade where they get someone like Jonathan Burnier of the Kings or Cory Schneider of the Canaucks.

They are more likely to tade Roy over Stafford.   The have a ton of depth in their D-men.

In the offseason if the blackhawks miss the playoffs or lose in the first round do they trade Miller for Kane?  alternate one would be a Miller/Roy for Kane and someone else??


This all depends on what happens with the GM after this season---he has proven time and time again he cant make trades for quality veteran players who arent rentals.  The only trade that doesnt fall in this was the Drury trade with Calgary.

Similarly, would they trade say Stafford to Alberta for something in return?   That was part of their motive in the Drury trade...the veteran D-man they traded up there (forgetting his name) wanted to be closer to home.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 04:47 PM

It occurred to me that the Sabres have, in a way, put themselves in a win-win situation.  If the loss of Gaustad and Kassian lead to them tanking the rest of the season, they get a high draft pick.

If they bust out and make the playoffs, the cache for players they may want to deal over the summer raises higher than what it is now.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 05:19 PM

View Postdjp14150, on 28 February 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

I see something bigger happening next season than what many have posted.

The activity will happen prior to the draft.  

My first thought...I wonder if the Sabres tank it to close the season and get a top 3 pick.  The top 3 on the draft board are players who could step right in and play.

I see them trading Miller in the offseason as part of a trade where they get someone like Jonathan Burnier of the Kings or Cory Schneider of the Canaucks.

They are more likely to tade Roy over Stafford.   The have a ton of depth in their D-men.


In the offseason if the blackhawks miss the playoffs or lose in the first round do they trade Miller for Kane?  alternate one would be a Miller/Roy for Kane and someone else??


This all depends on what happens with the GM after this season---he has proven time and time again he cant make trades for quality veteran players who arent rentals.  The only trade that doesnt fall in this was the Drury trade with Calgary.

Similarly, would they trade say Stafford to Alberta for something in return?   That was part of their motive in the Drury trade...the veteran D-man they traded up there (forgetting his name) wanted to be closer to home.
if they trade for bernier or Schneider, that implies that the kings and Canucks want miller, that doesn't make sense. A lot of wishful thinking here, but I enjoy optimism.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 05:40 PM

View PostLGR4GM, on 28 February 2012 - 03:59 PM, said:

I figured Ennis at 2.5mil and Kaleta at 1.5 and thats how i get 4mil... I don't see either of them getting money similar to Cody McCormick and I see ennis making more than gerbe.

As for the rest, if you have good enough wingers you can make a good #2 into a solid #1 and Pommers and Vanek could be good enough.
Kaleta will probably be under $1MM.  Possibly he'll get to $1.2MM (but I definitely do NOT want to see the pictures that he took to get to that sum), but that's a very outside possibility.

I'd be surprised to see Ennis get anything over $2.2MM and expect him to be a smidge under $2MM.  (A really long contract could push him closer to $2.4MM, but even that seems to be a stretch.)

As stated in my 1st reply.  There is no ###### way they're getting $5MM between them.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 06:48 PM

View PostTaro T, on 28 February 2012 - 05:40 PM, said:

Kaleta will probably be under $1MM.  Possibly he'll get to $1.2MM (but I definitely do NOT want to see the pictures that he took to get to that sum), but that's a very outside possibility.

I'd be surprised to see Ennis get anything over $2.2MM and expect him to be a smidge under $2MM.  (A really long contract could push him closer to $2.4MM, but even that seems to be a stretch.)

As stated in my 1st reply.  There is no ###### way they're getting $5MM between them.
I am not happy with the multi-year deal McCormick got, and Kaleta doesn't deserve a similar contract.  How come other teams can find great fourth liners for under 1 mil, but the Sabres can't?

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 07:11 PM

If the Sabres are at 49 contracts and just traded for a centre, then I guess that means that they have
little interest in signing Phil Varone, eh?  

A rookie, Varone is now leading Rochester in scoring.   He's 13th in scoring for rookies in the AHL,
with Foligno only 3 points behind him.    I suppose Kassian was Buffalo's best hope for yet another
AHL rookie of the year.   It looks like that streak is likely to end at three (Gerbe, Ennis, Adam).

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 07:25 PM

View Postdjp14150, on 28 February 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

I see something bigger happening next season than what many have posted.

The activity will happen prior to the draft.  

My first thought...I wonder if the Sabres tank it to close the season and get a top 3 pick.  The top 3 on the draft board are players who could step right in and play.

I see them trading Miller in the offseason as part of a trade where they get someone like Jonathan Burnier of the Kings or Cory Schneider of the Canaucks.

They are more likely to tade Roy over Stafford.   The have a ton of depth in their D-men.

In the offseason if the blackhawks miss the playoffs or lose in the first round do they trade Miller for Kane?  alternate one would be a Miller/Roy for Kane and someone else??


This all depends on what happens with the GM after this season---he has proven time and time again he cant make trades for quality veteran players who arent rentals.  The only trade that doesnt fall in this was the Drury trade with Calgary.

Similarly, would they trade say Stafford to Alberta for something in return?   That was part of their motive in the Drury trade...the veteran D-man they traded up there (forgetting his name) wanted to be closer to home.
I am going to say extremely unlikely for any of this.  Also the hawks will never trade kane for miller.  Darcy will be GM after this season.  Why would tpegs fire him if he hasn't already?  I HAVE NO IDEA WHY WE WOULD TRADE STAFFORD TO ALBERTA??? Staffords from Wisconsin. Either way he still would have to get on a plane to get home.

Trades of any kind during the offseason for Darcy are extremely unlikely.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 07:49 PM

View PostLGR4GM, on 28 February 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

I am going to say extremely unlikely for any of this.  Also the hawks will never trade kane for miller.  Darcy will be GM after this season.  Why would tpegs fire him if he hasn't already? I HAVE NO IDEA WHY WE WOULD TRADE STAFFORD TO ALBERTA??? Staffords from Wisconsin. Either way he still would have to get on a plane to get home.

Trades of any kind during the offseason for Darcy are extremely unlikely.

The poster mentioned that because Stafford's uncle is the Euler's Head Equipment Manager.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:23 PM

View Postetiennep99, on 28 February 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

If the Sabres are at 49 contracts and just traded for a centre, then I guess that means that they have
little interest in signing Phil Varone, eh?  

A rookie, Varone is now leading Rochester in scoring.   He's 13th in scoring for rookies in the AHL,
with Foligno only 3 points behind him. I suppose Kassian was Buffalo's best hope for yet another
AHL rookie of the year.   It looks like that streak is likely to end at three (Gerbe, Ennis, Adam).

Varone = ex Erie Otter   Connolly, Montador, Boyes.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:10 PM

View Posttom webster, on 28 February 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

I know there have been some questions about the cap next year and I thought this article does the best job speculating.





http://spectorshocke...nhl-salary-cap/
Thanks for posting the link.

That's far more plausible than Ken Campbell's prediction of a 24% rollback in salaries from a couple of months ago.

I can see the league pushing to get salaries down to 50% of HRR, but I'd expect them to end up at 52-54%.  I just don't see Don Fehr letting the #'s drop that much unless he gets a lot of concessions that put the on paper # around 48-50% but the real # closer to 56%.

I hope they keep the cap firm, but fear the blowhards like Brian Burke will get more leeway to add to the disparity between what the haves and have nots can spend.  (Yeah, I know.  The Sabres are now 'haves,' but my support of an even playing field runs deep.)

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:16 PM

View PostTaro T, on 28 February 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:


Thanks for posting the link.

That's far more plausible than Ken Campbell's prediction of a 24% rollback in salaries from a couple of months ago.

I can see the league pushing to get salaries down to 50% of HRR, but I'd expect them to end up at 52-54%.  I just don't see Don Fehr letting the #'s drop that much unless he gets a lot of concessions that put the on paper # around 48-50% but the real # closer to 56%.

I hope they keep the cap firm, but fear the blowhards like Brian Burke will get more leeway to add to the disparity between what the haves and have nots can spend.  (Yeah, I know.  The Sabres are now 'haves,' but my support of an even playing field runs deep.)

I love what the cap has done for hockey. I love the eveb playing field.

I would prefer the cap be dropped and owners allowed to spend as much as they want.


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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:31 PM

View PostLastPommerFan, on 28 February 2012 - 10:16 PM, said:

I love what the cap has done for hockey. I love the eveb playing field.

I would prefer the cap be dropped and owners allowed to spend as much as they want.
I've seen that movie.  Didn't like it.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:32 PM

View PostWho Else?, on 28 February 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

Varone = ex Erie Otter   Connolly, Montador, Boyes.

So is that a yea or a nay on Varone?   I think that you're saying that they will sign him, but he will will disappoint.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:47 PM

View PostTaro T, on 28 February 2012 - 10:31 PM, said:


I've seen that movie.  Didn't like it.

I agree the lack of a cap has ruined baseball.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:53 PM

View PostTaro T, on 28 February 2012 - 10:31 PM, said:

I've seen that movie.  Didn't like it.
Now that we've got Pegula, though, we might like the sequel better.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:08 PM

View PostSwampD, on 28 February 2012 - 10:53 PM, said:

Now that we've got Pegula, though, we might like the sequel better.
I doubt it.

If the league is extremely unbalanced, the overall quality of play will suffer as the havenots have to go to extremely defensive 1st schemes to compete.

You're never going to take disparity between the teams completely away and end up with a true level playing field.  But the Sabres will have plenty of advantages in facilities and scouting and support staff that they shouldn't need to be able to walk away with Columbus' best asset for a handful of trinkets. :unsure: OK, bad example, but you know what I'm getting at. ;)

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:13 PM

View Postwonderbread, on 28 February 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:

I agree the lack of a cap has ruined baseball.

This is the truth.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:25 PM

View PostTaro T, on 28 February 2012 - 11:08 PM, said:

I doubt it.

If the league is extremely unbalanced, the overall quality of play will suffer as the havenots have to go to extremely defensive 1st schemes to compete.

You're never going to take disparity between the teams completely away and end up with a true level playing field.  But the Sabres will have plenty of advantages in facilities and scouting and support staff that they shouldn't need to be able to walk away with Columbus' best asset for a handful of trinkets. :unsure: OK, bad example, but you know what I'm getting at. ;)
I was only kidding, but the more I think about it, we were the havenots for so long that I couldn't care less about the overall quality of play, as long as we were the haves and won a Cup.  I'm not too proud that I need a level playing field to enjoy that.  After that, let them reinstate the cap if they want to.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:41 PM

As far as the 12-13 roster. I am ok with going into the season with say Hodgson and ennis centering the top two lines (unless Hodgson really tanks for rest of season) as for the 3rd line If Adam can find his game and improve defensivly great if not I hope they find a bargain 3rd line center for a season or 2. Obiviously this is with the idea that Roy gets traded

On the wings I hope to see Staff traded and for us to sign and/or trade for a hard hitting winger that can play on the 2nd line (absolutly no idea who if any players going FA fit that description) for the 3rd line wings I would like to see Foligno challenge and unseat Kaleta for that spot. I think Foligno and Gerbe could work good on a line. If not I am ok with it being Gerbe and Kaleta with whatever center we get.

For the fourth line I would like to see Cody with Kaleta and a hard skating player (possibly Tropp?) to help forcheck and make a 4th line that can actually play some hockey. Foligno could easly be in Kaleta's spot on this line thou.

I'm ok with the defense as is minus Leopold. I think McNabb is ready to be a regular NHLer. Depending on how this Sulzer works out as a spare defensemen maybe find a servicable 6/7th defensemen in FA

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:02 AM

I think this team actually looks pretty good when you remove Roy and Stafford and make a few key additions:

Miller
Enroth

Myers - Regehr
McNabb - Ehrhoff
Weber - Sekera
Leopold

Vanek - Hodgson - Pominville
Leino - Ennis - NEW PLAYER
Gerbe - Adam - NEW PLAYER
Foligno - GAUSTAD - Tropp
McCormick - Kaleta

Basically: re-sign Gaustad, add a couple of tough talented right wingers with size, draft well this year, stay healthy, and BAM! Instant Stanley Cup.

Edited by Billy Fuccillo, 29 February 2012 - 12:03 AM.


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:12 AM

View PostBilly Fuccillo, on 29 February 2012 - 12:02 AM, said:

I think this team actually looks pretty good when you remove Roy and Stafford and make a few key additions:

Miller
Enroth

Myers - Regehr
McNabb - Ehrhoff
Weber - Sekera
Leopold

Vanek - Hodgson - Pominville
Leino - Ennis - NEW PLAYER
Gerbe - Adam - NEW PLAYER
Foligno - GAUSTAD - Tropp
McCormick - Kaleta

Basically: re-sign Gaustad, add a couple of tough talented right wingers with size, draft well this year, stay healthy, and BAM! Instant Stanley Cup.

Gaustad is not being resigned

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:35 AM

View Postcvanvol, on 29 February 2012 - 12:12 AM, said:



Gaustad is not being resigned

Agreed. I think he's gone for good.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 01:11 AM

The key to the Sabres next year is their glut of second-liners (Stafford, Leino, Ennis, Hodgson, Roy) plus their glut of young defencemen (Myers, Sekera, Weber, McNabb, Brennan, Schiestel, Pysyk, Leduc), plus their four picks in the top 50 this year, plus TPegs willingness to spend.

Darcy believes in his goalie and his defencemen. He wants to add impact to his top six.
He's not likely to trade Myers or Hodgson, but it is reasonable to assume some combination of the above can bring in a top six forward with some grit.

I like a Hodgson Vanek Pominville first line.
I can jump back on the Sunshine and Kittens bandwagon with Parise Leino Stafford or Roy Ennis Dustin Brown or Adam Nash whichever one Cbus didnt take second line
You would have to sign another Goose type for the third line, but Gerbe Kaleta McCOrmick Ellis Tropp Foligno are adequate choices for your bottom four or five forward spots.

It can be done.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 01:21 AM

View Postdudacek, on 29 February 2012 - 01:11 AM, said:

The key to the Sabres next year is their glut of second-liners (Stafford, Leino, Ennis, Hodgson, Roy) plus their glut of young defencemen (Myers, Sekera, Weber, McNabb, Brennan, Schiestel, Pysyk, Leduc), plus their four picks in the top 50 this year, plus TPegs willingness to spend.

Darcy believes in his goalie and his defencemen. He wants to add impact to his top six.
He's not likely to trade Myers or Hodgson, but it is reasonable to assume some combination of the above can bring in a top six forward with some grit.

I like a Hodgson Vanek Pominville first line.
I can jump back on the Sunshine and Kittens bandwagon with Parise Leino Stafford or Roy Ennis Dustin Brown or Adam Nash whichever one Cbus didnt take second line
You would have to sign another Goose type for the third line, but Gerbe Kaleta McCOrmick Ellis Tropp Foligno are adequate choices for your bottom four or five forward spots.

It can be done.

If you add a legitimate first line center to this roster right now it is a contender. Hodgson should be the second line center IMO until he reaches his potential if he does. Then you either add a hard nosed center or roll with one of adam, roy, ennis as ur third line center....

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 01:26 AM

View Postetiennep99, on 28 February 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

If the Sabres are at 49 contracts and just traded for a centre, then I guess that means that they have little interest in signing Phil Varone...
Even with a bunch of contracts coming off the books, Varone will only serve as AHL depth.  If you are asking whether or not Varone will be signed for a contract with the Amerks, it depends on how many of the center prospects/depth guys are in Rochester next year.  Catenacci and I think Suhnder will be there next year.  Szezchura and Ellis are possiblities as well.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 02:19 AM

So I never, EVER do this, because frankly I'm usually nowhere NEAR the loop to even dream of knowing any scoop that you all back home don't know weeks ahead of me.  But my dad just told me today that when he was at his favorite barber shop in Orchard Park, he heard it from an inside source (i.e. player also getting his own hair cut at the time) telling the barber that the chances that Goose comes right back to the Sabres in the offseason are almost 100%.  And unless whoever said it in my dad's presence is totally FOS, I'm putting Gaustad on all my 2012-2013 armchair rosters.  Just sayin.  :ph34r:

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 02:46 AM

so who was the player?

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 03:20 AM

View Postcvanvol, on 29 February 2012 - 02:46 AM, said:

so who was the player?
How many player visit barbers instead of salons?  My list is less than 5.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 07:22 AM

At this point I prefer to see Adam play LW and let CoHo, Ennis, and Roy if he is still around handle center duties.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:45 AM

View Postinkman, on 29 February 2012 - 03:20 AM, said:

How many player visit barbers instead of salons?  My list is less than 5.

Assuming it's the place I'm well aware of, they get a lot of Bills players.  I have no idea why anyone from the Sabres would be there though since they all live out in Amherst.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:10 AM

View Postshrader, on 29 February 2012 - 09:45 AM, said:

Assuming it's the place I'm well aware of, they get a lot of Bills players.  I have no idea why anyone from the Sabres would be there though since they all live out in Amherst.

Aren't the Sabres on a west coast trip ... who didn't make the trip in order to get his haircut in Orchard Park?  Hecht maybe?  He doesn't strike me as a barbershop kind of guy, more of a salon type.