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[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

Ghost of Dwight Drane, on 03 August 2012 - 07:20 PM, said:

No.

My concerns are that Darcy Regier can't put together a team capable of a championship. When I see Sabres at the top of some secondary statistical analysis, my fear heightens that he selects his players like a poor version of Moneyball instead of sound, visual analysis of the skills and attributes a player brings to the game.

This little ditty supporting the Sabres 2 draft picks doesn't get me excited. It makes me think they were chosen because they were at the top of some spreadsheet that was spitout.....and not because they posses the assets needed to build a winner. From what I have seen of Girgensons, and Devine's quotes.....I am much less in fear of him.....but the point stands. You can go home with a hot girl at the bar who is trustworthy and has an awesome personality......but if you chose her because she drives a Buick LaCrosse......and you have a spreadsheet that somehow states the best spousal material come from a higher proportion of those who drive a Buick LaCrosse......well, then you just lucked out.

d4rksabre, on 05 August 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

This is the shittiest post you've ever made.

Here is my position. I feel it was stated with the point being fairly obvious.

You two boys should go shop together for blue and gold picture frames for your diplomas.

[Eleven]

SwampD, on 05 August 2012 - 07:34 PM, said:

"Potential" is what we as Sabre fans have been sold for years.  It's foolish.  I'd rather chase actual talent.



I think it's the Sabre's only option.

If you can't tell, I'm as negative as I've ever been heading into a season.

Bastion of optimism that I am, same here.  Well, at least in the last fifteen years.

d4rksabre, on 05 August 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

This is the shittiest post you've ever made.

Unfortunately, it isn't.

[TrueBluePhD]

Ghost of Dwight Drane, on 05 August 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

Here's some analytics, 73.4% of your responses to me argue for the sake of arguing, and the rate goes up to 87.6% after I clearly make a response that does not indicate what you are implying.

There is a 23.2% chance you have poor reading comprehension skills.

Shouldn't you still be counting your winnings from when the Rangers' jockey pulled away from the competition?

Your position on statistics is hilariously ironic given you were handicapping the playoff race down the stretch based on charts.

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

TrueBluePhD, on 05 August 2012 - 10:23 PM, said:

Shouldn't you still be counting your winnings from when the Rangers' jockey pulled away from the competition?

Your position on statistics is hilariously ironic given you were handicapping the playoff race down the stretch based on charts.

For the 43rd time...there is nothing wrong with using statistics as a tool.

When you job as a GM is to assemble a roster of 50 contracts, with $70 million a year going to your NHL roster......you better know how to look at a player and everything that encompasses his assets.....and know how to value those assets in creating a balanced team.

Darcy Regier has failed to do so, and in miserable fashion might I say. His propencity to quote these types of statistics, and now a few of the posters celebrating the fact certain Sabres players are at the top of some of such lists.......only leads me further to believe he has no F'n clue what he is doing.

I am much more forgiving of Lindy Ruff and his failures than I am of Regier. Ruff is a top 5-10 coach when he is on his game. Regier is a bottom of the pack GM. I could name 5 posters here that I would rather have as GM of the Sabres over Regier. I couldn't tell you the name of someone that could outcoach Ruff however.

Eleven, on 05 August 2012 - 10:07 PM, said:

Unfortunately, it isn't.

True Dat.

[bunomatic]

Ghost of Dwight Drane, on 05 August 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

For the 43rd time...there is nothing wrong with using statistics as a tool.

When you job as a GM is to assemble a roster of 50 contracts, with $70 million a year going to your NHL roster......you better know how to look at a player and everything that encompasses his assets.....and know how to value those assets in creating a balanced team.

Darcy Regier has failed to do so, and in miserable fashion might I say. His propencity to quote these types of statistics, and now a few of the posters celebrating the fact certain Sabres players are at the top of some of such lists.......only leads me further to believe he has no F'n clue what he is doing.

I am much more forgiving of Lindy Ruff and his failures than I am of Regier. Ruff is a top 5-10 coach when he is on his game. Regier is a bottom of the pack GM. I could name 5 posters here that I would rather have as GM of the Sabres over Regier. I couldn't tell you the name of someone that could outcoach Ruff however.



True Dat.

  I have to agree on both of the above.

[wjag]

Eleven, on 05 August 2012 - 10:07 PM, said:

Bastion of optimism that I am, same here.  Well, at least in the last fifteen years.

I'm with you...  I just don't see where the goals are going to come from. So now we are assembling a team of Kaletas...  Yippee....  That'll be fun to watch them lose as they hit everything in sight.  I mean, we now have Pardy and Scott..  They should be good for an easy couple of goals... I sure hope I'm wrong...   Maybe a work stoppage won't be such a bad thing this year..

Edited by wjag, 06 August 2012 - 04:49 AM.

[dEnnis the Menace]

Ghost of Dwight Drane, on 05 August 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

For the 43rd time...there is nothing wrong with using statistics as a tool.

When you job as a GM is to assemble a roster of 50 contracts, with $70 million a year going to your NHL roster......you better know how to look at a player and everything that encompasses his assets.....and know how to value those assets in creating a balanced team.

Darcy Regier has failed to do so, and in miserable fashion might I say. His propencity to quote these types of statistics, and now a few of the posters celebrating the fact certain Sabres players are at the top of some of such lists.......only leads me further to believe he has no F'n clue what he is doing.

I am much more forgiving of Lindy Ruff and his failures than I am of Regier. Ruff is a top 5-10 coach when he is on his game. Regier is a bottom of the pack GM. I could name 5 posters here that I would rather have as GM of the Sabres over Regier. I couldn't tell you the name of someone that could outcoach Ruff however.

I wholeheartedly agree with you here.

[RazielSabre]

Ghost of Dwight Drane, on 05 August 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

For the 43rd time...there is nothing wrong with using statistics as a tool.

When you job as a GM is to assemble a roster of 50 contracts, with $70 million a year going to your NHL roster......you better know how to look at a player and everything that encompasses his assets.....and know how to value those assets in creating a balanced team.

Darcy Regier has failed to do so, and in miserable fashion might I say. His propencity to quote these types of statistics, and now a few of the posters celebrating the fact certain Sabres players are at the top of some of such lists.......only leads me further to believe he has no F'n clue what he is doing.

I am much more forgiving of Lindy Ruff and his failures than I am of Regier. Ruff is a top 5-10 coach when he is on his game. Regier is a bottom of the pack GM. I could name 5 posters here that I would rather have as GM of the Sabres over Regier. I couldn't tell you the name of someone that could outcoach Ruff however.



True Dat.

Agree with large parts of the post. I will break Regier down in to 4 grades though:

Draft: B+. Not perfect but he has top 5 % of players who have had success in the league. His a good guy to have on draft day imho.
Trade: B+. His ability to get a deal is stunning (Briere, Gausted, Drury, Ott) but sometimes I'm not sure he goes after the best players for the team. Sometimes I think he goes after a good deal instead.
Free Agents: D+: I can't think of many successful signings. Ehrhoff is one but I'm struggling beyond that.
Creating a team: D: While he's potentially saving himself this season he has so far in his career gone for small, skilled players almost entirely which has caused us a number of already extensively highlighted issues.

I don't think his a bottom of the pack GM but I do think his potential far outweighs his proven ability so far. Sad thing is I don't know many GM's I'd prefer (aside from Lou from NJD) currently working.

Edited by RazielSabre, 06 August 2012 - 08:09 AM.

[shrader]

wjag, on 06 August 2012 - 04:46 AM, said:

I'm with you...  I just don't see where the goals are going to come from. So now we are assembling a team of Kaletas...  Yippee....  That'll be fun to watch them lose as they hit everything in sight.  I mean, we now have Pardy and Scott..  They should be good for an easy couple of goals... I sure hope I'm wrong...   Maybe a work stoppage won't be such a bad thing this year..

Haven't people been crying for the "hardest working team in hockey" days for a bit now?  They better be careful because sometime you get exactly what you ask for.

[FolignosJock]

shrader, on 06 August 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

Haven't people been crying for the "hardest working team in hockey" days for a bit now?  They better be careful because sometime you get exactly what you ask for.

yup they work hard but they lose. That is what it is looking like right now. Unless something is done it is going to be a long season but hey at least they work hard. UGH

[BuffaloSoldier2010]

Ghost of Dwight Drane, on 05 August 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

Here's some analytics, 73.4% of your responses to me argue for the sake of arguing, and the rate goes up to 87.6% after I clearly make a response that does not indicate what you are implying.

There is a 23.2% chance you have poor reading comprehension skills.

There's a 100% chance that I will have no idea what you're trying to insinuate 87.4% of the time.

[Claude_Verret]

This song always goes through my head when a thread goes off on a statistics tangent.

Quote

They say 3 percent of the people use 5 to 6 percent of their brain
97 percent use 3 percent and the rest goes down the drain
I'll never know which one I am but I'll bet you my last dime
99 percent think we're 3 percent 100 percent of the time

[TrueBluePhD]

Claude_Verret, on 06 August 2012 - 12:22 PM, said:

This song always goes through my head when a thread goes off on a statistics tangent.

Haha.  Outstanding.

Anyway, with the Doan (non)news today, I think it's time to sign Arnott or Langkow and call it a day.

[weave]

TrueBluePhD, on 06 August 2012 - 01:05 PM, said:

Anyway, with the Doan (non)news today, I think it's time to sign Arnott or Langkow and call it a day.

Agreed.  Although trading D depth for another winger with some scoring ability makes sense.  I doubt we get a top 6 guy that way though.

[Eleven]

TrueBluePhD, on 06 August 2012 - 01:05 PM, said:

Haha.  Outstanding.

Anyway, with the Doan (non)news today, I think it's time to sign Arnott or Langkow and call it a day.

You know what they can do that Shane Doan cannot?

Play center.

[TrueBluePhD]

weave, on 06 August 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:

Agreed.  Although trading D depth for another winger with some scoring ability makes sense.  I doubt we get a top 6 guy that way though.

Yea I've essentially abandoned hope of a top-6 trade (unless bigger moves were on hold until Doan made told the Sabres they were out), so trading some D depth makes sense.

Eleven, on 06 August 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:

You know what they can do that Shane Doan cannot?

Play center.

Sure, if what they do at their current ages is what you consider playing center .

Edit:  In case it wasn't clear, I was joking with that.  I think either one would be a good move for the team.

Edited by TrueBluePhD, 06 August 2012 - 01:24 PM.

[weave]

TrueBluePhD, on 06 August 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

Yea I've essentially abandoned hope of a top-6 trade (unless bigger moves were on hold until Doan made told the Sabres they were out), so trading some D depth makes sense.



Sure, if what they do at their current ages is what you consider playing center .

Edit:  In case it wasn't clear, I was joking with that.  I think either one would be a good move for the team.

Rob Needstoretire 2.0  

[TrueBluePhD]

weave, on 06 August 2012 - 01:34 PM, said:

Rob Needstoretire 2.0  

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

BuffaloSoldier2010, on 06 August 2012 - 11:08 AM, said:

There's a 100% chance that I will have no idea what you're trying to insinuate 87.4% of the time.

That's funny.....and I appreciate your candor

shrader, on 06 August 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

Haven't people been crying for the "hardest working team in hockey" days for a bit now?  They better be careful because sometime you get exactly what you ask for.

There is no turnover though except Ott for Roy. Hecht and Boyes are gone, but Hecht was a non-entity for the most part and Boyes was just invisible.

Scott is the only addition otherwise, and we know full well Lindy will have him in the pressbox sooner than you can say "Hockey Heaven".

RazielSabre, on 06 August 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:

Agree with large parts of the post. I will break Regier down in to 4 grades though:

Draft: B+. Not perfect but he has top 5 % of players who have had success in the league. His a good guy to have on draft day imho.
Trade: B+. His ability to get a deal is stunning (Briere, Gausted, Drury, Ott) but sometimes I'm not sure he goes after the best players for the team. Sometimes I think he goes after a good deal instead.
Free Agents: D+: I can't think of many successful signings. Ehrhoff is one but I'm struggling beyond that.
Creating a team: D: While he's potentially saving himself this season he has so far in his career gone for small, skilled players almost entirely which has caused us a number of already extensively highlighted issues.

I don't think his a bottom of the pack GM but I do think his potential far outweighs his proven ability so far. Sad thing is I don't know many GM's I'd prefer (aside from Lou from NJD) currently working.

Uh oh.....we agree on something. Hurry up...call me an a-hole or something!

[RazielSabre]

Ghost of Dwight Drane, on 06 August 2012 - 02:12 PM, said:

That's funny.....and I appreciate your candor



There is no turnover though except Ott for Roy. Hecht and Boyes are gone, but Hecht was a non-entity for the most part and Boyes was just invisible.

Scott is the only addition otherwise, and we know full well Lindy will have him in the pressbox sooner than you can say "Hockey Heaven".



Uh oh.....we agree on something. Hurry up...call me an a-hole or something!

Lmao. I was tempted to put something like that in myself. It was bound to happen one day. However I'm going to check for signs of an apocalypse in a moment.

TrueBluePhD, on 06 August 2012 - 01:05 PM, said:

Haha.  Outstanding.

Anyway, with the Doan (non)news today, I think it's time to sign Arnott or Langkow and call it a day.

I've been wondering whether Arnott would be a good signing for this team anyway. Decent bottom 6 centre. I'm surprised STL didn't resign him actually.

[TrueBluePhD]

RazielSabre, on 06 August 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

Lmao. I was tempted to put something like that in myself. It was bound to happen one day. However I'm going to check for signs of an apocalypse in a moment.



I've been wondering whether Arnott would be a good signing for this team anyway. Decent bottom 6 centre. I'm surprised STL didn't resign him actually.

I think it depends what the Sabres want to do.  If they want to run 3 scoring lines, then Arnott is an obvious option.  If, however, they want a more responsible defensive line in the mix, somebody like Dominic Moore would make more sense (if he'd come back, IIRC there were some stories about him being unhappy for his short stint).  Arnott, Langkow and Moore are really the only UFA options left for a bottom-6 center.  Anything else would have to come via trade.

[RazielSabre]

TrueBluePhD, on 06 August 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

I think it depends what the Sabres want to do.  If they want to run 3 scoring lines, then Arnott is an obvious option.  If, however, they want a more responsible defensive line in the mix, somebody like Dominic Moore would make more sense (if he'd come back, IIRC there were some stories about him being unhappy for his short stint).  Arnott, Langkow and Moore are really the only UFA options left for a bottom-6 center.  Anything else would have to come via trade.

I thought Arnott was a perfectly sound defensive guy. There's not a huge amount of offense left in him.

[TrueBluePhD]

RazielSabre, on 06 August 2012 - 05:03 PM, said:

I thought Arnott was a perfectly sound defensive guy. There's not a huge amount of offense left in him.

I don't think he was ever anything better than mediocre defensively, and that was in his prime.  Now he's old and slow as hell, so the defense is pretty bad.  But he's still good for 30 points or so, and would provide a nice veteran presence for our young centers.  But it's not like decent bottom-6 centers are falling off trees at the moment, and I think he'd be a good addition.

[dudacek]

We're going to have Leino, Ehrhoff, Regehr, Tropp, Hodgson, Sulzer, Foligno, Scott, Ott and perhaps Grigorenko and Pardy as new faces from 13 months ago.
That's nearly half the room and we've shed four players from "the core" (Connolly, Roy, Gaustad and Hecht).
I know people want a signature move, but you have to admit there is a serious changing of the guard going on here.
We've gotten younger and tougher — as for better, we're just going to have play the games.

[d4rksabre]

dudacek, on 06 August 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

We're going to have Leino, Ehrhoff, Regehr, Tropp, Hodgson, Sulzer, Foligno, Scott, Ott and perhaps Grigorenko and Pardy as new faces from 13 months ago.
That's nearly half the room and we've shed four players from "the core" (Connolly, Roy, Gaustad and Hecht).
I know people want a signature move, but you have to admit there is a serious changing of the guard going on here.
We've gotten younger and tougher — as for better, we're just going to have play the games.

[qwksndmonster]

You just say "bingo."

[TrueBluePhD]

In light of the Meszaros injury, I'm sure the Flyers will be heavy into the market for a defenseman now (if they weren't already).  If I'm Regier I'm trying to get Simmonds for Sekera.  Realistic?  I think the value is there for both teams.  I'd also like to see Talbot on the team to really anchor the 3rd line center position, but there's no way I trade Sekera for Talbot, so not sure what we'd send back.  But the point is I'd be calling Philly to talk.

[weave]

TrueBluePhD, on 07 August 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

In light of the Meszaros injury, I'm sure the Flyers will be heavy into the market for a defenseman now (if they weren't already).  If I'm Regier I'm trying to get Simmonds for Sekera.  Realistic?  I think the value is there for both teams.  I'd also like to see Talbot on the team to really anchor the 3rd line center position, but there's no way I trade Sekera for Talbot, so not sure what we'd send back.  But the point is I'd be calling Philly to talk.

It seems to me that there are few teams that are truly desparate for defensemen, but Philly ought to be one of them.

Talbot is one of those more-valuable-than-his-stats guys.  I wanted him on the team last year.  I don't know if it is even value or not, but given our riches at defense I'd accept a Sekera for Talbot deal.  The surplus on defense is worthless if it can't be parlayed into something more usefull.

[TrueBluePhD]

weave, on 07 August 2012 - 09:25 AM, said:

It seems to me that there are few teams that are truly desparate for defensemen, but Philly ought to be one of them.

Talbot is one of those more-valuable-than-his-stats guys.  I wanted him on the team last year.  I don't know if it is even value or not, but given our riches at defense I'd accept a Sekera for Talbot deal.  The surplus on defense is worthless if it can't be parlayed into something more usefull.

You're right, he adds more than his stats.  Talbot would be perfect as the 3rd line center, giving us potential for a real shut-down line; as opposed to shoe-horning Leino in there, which would make a decent two-way line but would lack real shut-down capability IMO.  Talbot is gritty, great defensively, great PKer,  affordable and could also be effective on the 4th line in a year or two when Grigorenko is ready to play heavy minutes.  I'm still not trading Sekera for him, but I think he'd be a fantastic addition.

[sabres26]

What about Scott Hartnell. He would be an amazing 2nd line left winger. thoughts??

[weave]

sabres26, on 07 August 2012 - 09:43 AM, said:

What about Scott Hartnell. He would be an amazing 2nd line left winger. thoughts??

They would ask for more than you'd be willing to give to get Hartnell.  I think Simmonds may be a more reasonable target than Hartnell.

[TrueBluePhD]

sabres26, on 07 August 2012 - 09:43 AM, said:

What about Scott Hartnell. He would be an amazing 2nd line left winger. thoughts??

I hate Hartnell with a fiery passion.  Sure it would probably be different if he were on the Sabres, but still I'm lukewarm on him as a target for a few reasons.  First, his value right now is hyper-inflated due to a 37 goal season on Giroux's wing.  Unless Ennis actually morphs into mini-Giroux this year, Hartnell's production won't be what it was last year (and frankly it's probably going to drop even playing with Giroux, based on his overly high shooting percentage last year).  Second, at the end of the year he'll be 31 and a UFA, which is kind of an odd spot for a new contract for a power forward.  Let's say he has another 30+ goal season, he'll command probably $6 million or more on the open market, and I'm not really interested in signing him to a 7 year contract at his age.

I think Hartnell would be great on the team this year, but I'm not sure he fits well into the long-term plans, which is why I'd be hesitant to give up valuable assets to acquire him.  So I guess it would come down to the asking price.

[RazielSabre]

If we are going to trade with Philly to help their defensive need I want to rob their offense. AND I want to win this deal clear. We see them too often and get beaten to often for me to be happy with anything else.

They do have pieces I like though. Think we could get Briere back for Leopold and Brennan? Lol, j/k.

TrueBluePhD, on 07 August 2012 - 09:55 AM, said:

I hate Hartnell with a fiery passion.  Sure it would probably be different if he were on the Sabres, but still I'm lukewarm on him as a target for a few reasons.  First, his value right now is hyper-inflated due to a 37 goal season on Giroux's wing.  Unless Ennis actually morphs into mini-Giroux this year, Hartnell's production won't be what it was last year (and frankly it's probably going to drop even playing with Giroux, based on his overly high shooting percentage last year).  Second, at the end of the year he'll be 31 and a UFA, which is kind of an odd spot for a new contract for a power forward.  Let's say he has another 30+ goal season, he'll command probably $6 million or more on the open market, and I'm not really interested in signing him to a 7 year contract at his age.

I think Hartnell would be great on the team this year, but I'm not sure he fits well into the long-term plans, which is why I'd be hesitant to give up valuable assets to acquire him.  So I guess it would come down to the asking price.

Nice post, good points on Hartnell. Puts reasons to a lot of instincts I have about him.

weave, on 07 August 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

They would ask for more than you'd be willing to give to get Hartnell.  I think Simmonds may be a more reasonable target than Hartnell.

To be fair Simmonds just put up career numbers in his debut season with the Flyers. I suspect we won't see him being moved under and circumstance. To be fair I think Philly realise they can't afford to lose offense so we might be a limited trading partner.

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

weave, on 07 August 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

They would ask for more than you'd be willing to give to get Hartnell.  I think Simmonds may be a more reasonable target than Hartnell.

Send them Myers....take them both.

Philly would want more though.

[TrueBluePhD]

Ghost of Dwight Drane, on 07 August 2012 - 10:56 AM, said:

Send them Myers....take them both.

Philly would want more though.

So would the Sabres.

[TrueBluePhD]

RazielSabre, on 07 August 2012 - 11:14 AM, said:

Yer but my only worry with that is that now we have a top 2 center and starting him off in the NHL as a winger. Cant have everything though and it might be worth a shot.

Most of this conversation would probably be best in the Sabres 12-13 thread actually. Shall we get back to the lack of information regarding Doan?

Sure we can bring the conversation here!  I think starting Grigorenko on the wing is a good idea, and it's a fairly common practice throughout the NHL (off the top of my head Giroux, Schenn and Seguin are recent examples of high-end center prospects starting on the wing).  Grigorenko's mind would probably be blown at the prospect of how much defensive responsibility centers have in the Sabres' system.  And with Ennis and Hodgson filling the top two spots, it's not like the Sabres have a defensive specialist at center who could eat all the hard minutes.  If Grigorenko makes the roster out of camp, I think he'll have a hard enough time adjusting to defensive responsibilities on the wing, let alone at center.  The idea would be to minimize his defensive responsibilities on the wing, so he can focus on creating offense.  If he starts at center, I think it's required for him to play with defensively-responsible players such as Pominville and Ott so they can cover for his inevitable lapses.

[RazielSabre]

TrueBluePhD, on 07 August 2012 - 11:20 AM, said:

Sure we can bring the conversation here!  I think starting Grigorenko on the wing is a good idea, and it's a fairly common practice throughout the NHL (off the top of my head Giroux, Schenn and Seguin are recent examples of high-end center prospects starting on the wing).  Grigorenko's mind would probably be blown at the prospect of how much defensive responsibility centers have in the Sabres' system.  And with Ennis and Hodgson filling the top two spots, it's not like the Sabres have a defensive specialist at center who could eat all the hard minutes.  If Grigorenko makes the roster out of camp, I think he'll have a hard enough time adjusting to defensive responsibilities on the wing, let alone at center.  The idea would be to minimize his defensive responsibilities on the wing, so he can focus on creating offense.  If he starts at center, I think it's required for him to play with defensively-responsible players such as Pominville and Ott so they can cover for his inevitable lapses.

I see your point, hadn't realised with Segiun, Giroux and Schenn.

[inkman]

This morning Jeremy White opined that Brayden McNabb has to start the season as a Sabre based on his performance last year.  Does everyone agree with this?

[SwampD]

inkman, on 13 August 2012 - 08:52 AM, said:

This morning Jeremy White opined that Brayden McNabb has to start the season as a Sabre based on his performance last year.  Does everyone agree with this?

I don't think any Sabre deserves to start in the NHL based on their performance last year.

[TrueBluePhD]

inkman, on 13 August 2012 - 08:52 AM, said:

This morning Jeremy White opined that Brayden McNabb has to start the season as a Sabre based on his performance last year.  Does everyone agree with this?

No.  I'm not as high on McNabb as some, and his lack of foot speed worries me.  I'm perfectly open to him playing his way onto the roster, but I don't think a small sample of games last year should guarantee him a spot.

SwampD, on 13 August 2012 - 08:55 AM, said:

I don't think any Sabre deserves to start in the NHL based on their performance last year.