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#1 X. Benedict

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 07:16 PM

Here are the rules.: Give your best market recommendation for anyone in the Sabre organization, connected to the team,  or hockey in general. This can change day to day and indicates the most recent market direction and not overall value.

Keep it short with a Buy, Sell, or Hold recommendation attached to : a Sabre player, front officer person,  mascot,  game day experience, hockey decision, etc...

Day-trading recommendations should be kept short, concise, and preferably pithy for fellow market watchers.


Examples:

Buy means the day-market is trending up:

Buy - Christian Erhoff for the nifty backhander pass through the crease last night.
Buy - Ted Black for the Dr. Evil "Laser Beams" imitation on WGR this afternoon.
Buy - Drew Stafford for today's Fu Manchu Workout Video

Sell means the day-market is trending down:

Sell - Luke Adam - for the 2 dumb penalties.
Sell - PK Subban for the over-the-top goal celebration.
Sell - MSG.com for having the slug logo on the box-score yesterday.

Hold means the market hasn't moved yet for conflicting or indecisive info:

Hold - Vanek for looking like a skating force, but missing the open net.
Hold - Kassian's chances for being first call up.
Hold - Grags and Erhoff as 2nd pairing. Nice offensive looks, but caught once out of  position.

#2 LabattBlue

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 07:58 PM

BUY...Amerks hockey in 11-12 if Kassian, McNabb & Foligno spend the year there

HOLD...Lindy supposedly going to do a better job of managing the goalie rotation

SELL SELL SELL...Delaware North concessions at the F'NC

#3 X. Benedict

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 08:00 PM

BUY..... Brendan Shanahan and the NHL for making video explanations for suspensions.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 11:43 AM

Buy - E.L.S. line will give teams fits this year...

Hold - anyone other than Vanek as capt... not quite there yet for me.

Sell - PP and PK so far...

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 08:08 PM

Sell - the idiot that thinks throwing that banana peel on the ice is funny.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 08:10 PM

View Postweave, on 23 September 2011 - 08:08 PM, said:

Sell - the idiot that thinks throwing that banana peel on the ice is funny.

Amen.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 09:26 PM

Buy- Erhoff blasting shots.

Hold- Lindy's statement that he'd like to bring Enroth of the bench mid game then not doing it.

Sell- Roy's shoulder.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 09:33 PM

View Postwonderbread, on 23 September 2011 - 09:26 PM, said:

Buy- Erhoff blasting shots.

Hold- Lindy's statement that he'd like to bring Enroth of the bench mid game then not doing it.

Sell- Roy's shoulder.

Today?  All I heard this am was that Miller would play a whole game today and Enroth a whole game soon.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 09:38 PM

View PostEleven, on 23 September 2011 - 09:33 PM, said:

Today?  All I heard this am was that Miller would play a whole game today and Enroth a whole game soon.
Yeah there was a statement along the lines that he wanted to give Enroth off the bench experience. No link. Heard it on GR.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 03:50 AM

View Postwonderbread, on 23 September 2011 - 09:38 PM, said:

Yeah there was a statement along the lines that he wanted to give Enroth off the bench experience. No link. Heard it on GR.

I had heard that earlier in the week (and that's what happened in the first two games), but yesterday morning on GR, I heard that Ruff wanted to give Miller and Enroth a complete game each.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 05:24 AM

BUY...the size of the fight in the dog in Gerbe.

SELL.....the organizational depth at center.esp w/ Roy's UpperBI.

HOLD...Michigan St. Spartan prospects

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 07:47 AM

View PostEleven, on 24 September 2011 - 03:50 AM, said:

I had heard that earlier in the week (and that's what happened in the first two games), but yesterday morning on GR, I heard that Ruff wanted to give Miller and Enroth a complete game each.
You're probably correct. never mind then.

Buy- Lindy getting both his netminders playing time.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 08:11 AM

BUY - The Sabres may be the best team in hockey from the blue-line to goal-line this season.

SELL - Not willing to "sell" anything right now. Just haven't seen enough.

HOLD - The injury to Roy is a reminder that some players are being relied on to play center that are not true centers.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 09:41 AM

Buy -- This is not the 2009-2010 Buffalo Sabres

Hold -- Luke Adams is ready for the big club.

Sell -- Boston is going to win the Division.

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 09:58 AM

BUY - Luke Adam -- instant Karma with Boyes and Vanek.  

SELL -the leafs Washington Generals impersonations on the Pk

HOLD ----- the name of the Sabre that needs to blow up Colby Armstrong.

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 10:34 AM

Buy - Ville Leino his puck possession abilities will breed points

Sell  - everything candien fans think about their team, you have no scoring and a defense that will be determined by Markov's health.

Hold - Gerbe-Goose-Kaleta line, they still have 1 good game under their belt but I am not sold that they are gold

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 10:56 AM

SELL - Having 3 preseason games in 70 hours in 3 cities. Who thinks this stuff up?

BUY - Adam's chances for going to Europe.

HOLD - the amount of time our future Amerks will be practicing back-check assignments.

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 10:57 PM

BUY - Our PP being within the top 10 in the league this year
HOLD - Our physical presence when the going gets tough
SELL - MAG (loved him in the playoffs but he's be brutal with a capital B in the action I've seen thus far)

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 07:31 AM

as posted by someone else in another thread: Buy Buffalo Pro Sports

Sell: Adam and Ellis both staying with the big boys.

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 09:24 AM

View PostDerrico, on 26 September 2011 - 10:57 PM, said:

SELL - MAG (loved him in the playoffs but he's be brutal with a capital B in the action I've seen thus far)

If we're really lucky, he'll have a similar progress as Myers last year. Great at the end of the first season, mediocre to start the year, and gets his skates under him in a couple months.

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 01:37 PM

BUY - German hockey fans ---- it sounds like a  Japanese baseball game out there

HOLD - Kevin Sylvesester on the radio.   Not bad Kevin but youre in the habit of filling your calls with the word "There" or "here"  after every description.    Please stop it.  

SELL - exhibitions with no TV coverage.

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 08:54 PM

BUY...Lindy's got the "Hope Tank" filled up, and the fans are ready to hop on the Pegula/Black Express.

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 11:33 PM

Buy: Adam as a center for Vanek... those boys put up points :thumbsup:
Sell: Gerbe-Roy-Stafford.... I expected them to light it up :wallbash:
Hold: Ehrhoff, Offensive gold, defensively... unsure. :unsure:

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 04:26 PM

BUY - Vanek-Adam-Pommer 13 shots, 3 goals, partridge in a pear tree.

SELL - Sabres shot total in the 3rd - saving the legs for the Kings boys?

HOLD - Harry and RJ making the call from a TV feed with piped in sound....hmmmmm?

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 04:38 PM

Buy -- European start to a SC Season, 1pm Friday and Saturday hockey

Hold -- Stafford, Roy and Gerbers line

Sell -- DTV advertising Sabres Pregame and then saying it is blacked out in your viewing area.  Those teases...

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 08:37 AM

BUY - #72 with his reach and hands posting up in the slot.   What's that kids name? Luke Adamreychuk?

SELL - Whoever let Kopitar  get behind the D. How's that happen? West coast games must end too late to know who Kopitar is. He is a member of the Marcels Anonymous- it's a twelve stepper for nameless superstars.  

HOlD- Didn't see you Ville.

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 09:07 AM

HOLD- On Lieno centering that line.

BUY- Erhoff pair on the ice with "Adam" line. It enhances their lethality and ability to enter the zone cleanly.

HOLD-Sabres ability to handle an above average forecheck and defense the middle(Philly and Boston will tell us  a lot)

HOLD- Sabres PP when denied the zone and there is pressure on the puck in the o zone .

BUY-Regehr's physical play and the speed of his outlet pass decision making  when under pressure.

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 09:17 AM

BUY  THESE LINE COMBO's:


Vanek Adam Pominville (Adam is your #1 center for $6 mil less than trading for Spezza).
Ennis Leino Stafford (clicked in preseason)
Hecht Roy Boyes (all three are trade bait)
Gerbe Goose Kaleta (this group really clicked in preseason)
McCormick (keeper, next man up)
Ellis (should be captain in Rochester)

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 09:20 AM

BUY: Our First line.

SELL: Brad Boyes

HOLD: Nathan Gerbe

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 09:45 AM

View PostX. Benedict, on 09 October 2011 - 08:37 AM, said:

BUY - #72 with his reach and hands posting up in the slot.   What's that kids name? Luke Adamreychuk?



:thumbsup: :clapping:  LOL

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 05:45 PM

Buy -- Pommer.  Gotta give it to him -- very strong start as the C.  

Buy -- Vanek.  Great chemistry with Adam and Pommer so far.  Great maturity.  Good work on the PK.

Buy -- Ennis and Gerbe.  The smurfs have picked up where they left off last year.  Ennis is a force and Gerbe is relentless.  How about that play in the opener when one of the Ducks (I think it was Ryan or Perry) took a shot at Miller even though he knew that it wouldn't count because of a delayed penalty and Gerbe gave him an immediate slash and a shove?  Outstanding.

Buy -- Gragnani staying in the lineup.  Very poised and a strong addition to the PP.  And as long as he plays this well, the Sabres are going to want to play him enough times to keep his rights.

Buy -- Regehr.  An experienced, physical defenseman who plays all the tough minutes.  He's the best DR trade acquisition in quite some time.

Buy -- Miller.  Very strong play although not tested yet in crunch time.

Sell -- Boyes.  Sloppy with the puck and generally ineffective.

Sell -- forward line combinations other than Adam-Pommer-Vanek.  I think we're in for more tinkering.  I'd like to see Leino with Ennis and Stafford, and Roy with Gerbe and Boyes (or Roy-Gerbe-Hecht when Hecht returns).

Hold -- Myers.  He's been good but not great IMHO.  With great power comes great responsibility.

Hold -- Roy.  He looks fast, so I think the leg has recovered, but he hasn't found the groove yet.

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 07:51 AM

Buying- A Pominville Jersey with the "C". Seriously, My jersey is a slug (Sadly, no slug appreciation day in southwest Ohio) and my 3-year-old graciously made a construction paper Captain's C. It's sweet, but it is an abomination. As the self appointed captain of The Captain's fan club, I should have proper threads.

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 11:55 AM

View Postnfreeman, on 09 October 2011 - 05:45 PM, said:

Buy -- Pommer.  Gotta give it to him -- very strong start as the C.  

Buy -- Vanek.  Great chemistry with Adam and Pommer so far.  Great maturity.  Good work on the PK.

Buy -- Ennis and Gerbe.  The smurfs have picked up where they left off last year.  Ennis is a force and Gerbe is relentless.  How about that play in the opener when one of the Ducks (I think it was Ryan or Perry) took a shot at Miller even though he knew that it wouldn't count because of a delayed penalty and Gerbe gave him an immediate slash and a shove?  Outstanding.

Buy -- Gragnani staying in the lineup.  Very poised and a strong addition to the PP.  And as long as he plays this well, the Sabres are going to want to play him enough times to keep his rights.

Buy -- Regehr.  An experienced, physical defenseman who plays all the tough minutes.  He's the best DR trade acquisition in quite some time.

Buy -- Miller.  Very strong play although not tested yet in crunch time.

Sell -- Boyes.  Sloppy with the puck and generally ineffective.

Sell -- forward line combinations other than Adam-Pommer-Vanek.  I think we're in for more tinkering.  I'd like to see Leino with Ennis and Stafford, and Roy with Gerbe and Boyes (or Roy-Gerbe-Hecht when Hecht returns).

Hold -- Myers.  He's been good but not great IMHO.  With great power comes great responsibility.

Hold -- Roy.  He looks fast, so I think the leg has recovered, but he hasn't found the groove yet.
Sounds pretty spot on.

Buy -- Vanek without Roy. For years I thought Roy's puckhandling and shoot first tendency overshadowed Vanek. Now with better complimentary players in Pommers and Adam, Vanek seems to be shining.

Hold -- Third line D of MAG and Sekera, great start to the season but do they have the consistency to play out of the inevitable slump?

Sell -- RW pairs for the Leino and Roy lines. They just don't seem to be clicking. Maybe give it some time?

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 12:10 PM

Buy- Shooting the puck at the net.  Sounded so simple last year but no one wanted to do it.  The last two games, one guy shoots, the others go to the net, all but one goal has been scored below the faceoff dot.

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 07:21 AM

BUY - the team unity, they look like they're really playing for each other

HOLD - expecting more from Leino

SELL - still having some issues clearing the puck out of the zone convincingly

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 07:56 AM

BUY- The Locker room architect - creating a space that reflects the culture you want to establish is genius.

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 08:02 AM

View PostX. Benedict, on 11 October 2011 - 07:56 AM, said:

BUY- The Locker room architect - creating a space that reflects the culture you want to establish is genius.

:thumbsup: :clapping:

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:42 AM

Sell -- waiting a whole GD week for another Sabres game, especially after how good they looked the first weekend.

Sell -- that "Miller is overpaid" thread.  I hate myself for reading it.

Buy -- the Sabres coming out sky-high on Friday night.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:53 AM

View Postspndnchz, on 10 October 2011 - 12:10 PM, said:

Buy- Shooting the puck at the net.  Sounded so simple last year but no one wanted to do it.  The last two games, one guy shoots, the others go to the net, all but one goal has been scored below the faceoff dot.
Are you saying those guys in the 300s who yell "shoot!" constantly during every power play are right?

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 10:00 AM

BUY...The play of Adam continues to be a surprise.  Not tentative like last year & his skating seems to be better.

HOLD...The best defense in hockey(or one of the best)?  I'll continue to take a wait and see approach on this one.

SELL SELL SELL SELL...Boyes.  Just not impressed.  Floats a lot.  Except for a few tap-in wide open net goals last year, he hasn't done squat.  Another deadline acquisition that just hasn't worked out(Moore & Torres).