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#3641 TrueBluePhD

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 12:44 PM

http://www.nypost.co...D0cxUEv1vIHoAoI

I know I mentioned in the roster thread I'd love to add Prust to upgrade the 4th line...but $2.2 million seems insane for a 4th line winger.  Good for him if he gets it from somebody, but my interest in the Sabres pursuing him has now significantly dropped.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 12:46 PM

View PostTrueBluePhD, on 24 June 2012 - 12:44 PM, said:

http://www.nypost.co...D0cxUEv1vIHoAoI

I know I mentioned in the roster thread I'd love to add Prust to upgrade the 4th line...but $2.2 million seems insane for a 4th line winger.  Good for him if he gets it from somebody, but my interest in the Sabres pursuing him has now significantly dropped.

Wow.  2.2?  No way.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 01:37 PM

http://www.uwbadgers...z_justin00.html

Remember this name next week folks... Justin Schultz... he a highly thought of free agent....

more thoughts on player, said to be best player outside the draft by some....

http://sports.yahoo....00723--nhl.html

Edited by millbank, 24 June 2012 - 01:48 PM.


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Posted 24 June 2012 - 01:52 PM

View PostDeLuca67, on 24 June 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:

22 years old, 7th in the league with 270 hits led all NHL defensemen, -6 on a team that was a -33. There isn't a forward on this team that I wouldn't have traded for Luke Schenn. That includes Vanek, Ennis, Foligno and anyone else you can mention.
And thats why you sit on the internet whining on a message board and professionals are paid good money to build hockey teams. Of course if you were in charge of the team, the only statistical category that the team would care about is Hits. Who needs scoring when you can have the #7 on the list of Hits!

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 02:00 PM

http://www.thehockey...ortunities.html

above rather sobering article if your bias other teams regarding free agency, with NHL's arguably best GM and $20 million of cap money to spend, don't bet against wings signing a few of the highly desired free agents.....

Wings add Suter, Parise, Schultz and ka boom , ... Terry got a few $$$ on you....

Edited by millbank, 24 June 2012 - 02:07 PM.


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Posted 24 June 2012 - 02:10 PM

View Postapuszczalowski, on 24 June 2012 - 01:52 PM, said:

And thats why you sit on the internet whining on a message board and professionals are paid good money to build hockey teams. Of course if you were in charge of the team, the only statistical category that the team would care about is Hits. Who needs scoring when you can have the #7 on the list of Hits!
No one makes me laugh on this board on a regular basis more than you do.

A 22 year old physical defenseman that led the NHL in hits? We're not talking some 28-29 year old vet. Anyway, in case you didn't notice the Sabres drafted with an eye towards the physical aspect of the game. Happily someone down at the F'N center gets it. Sadly, you don't.

Edited by DeLuca67, 24 June 2012 - 02:11 PM.


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Posted 24 June 2012 - 02:59 PM

So in eight days we're looking at Hudler, Gaustad, Parenteau, Arnott, Samuelsson, Prust, Jagr, Knuble, Semin, O. Jokinen, Smyth, and Penner as available UFAs (I only included the likely forwards).  Plus Parise, Ott, Ryan, and Nash as available in trade.

Who do we go after...what do we do?

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 03:02 PM

View PostDeLuca67, on 24 June 2012 - 02:10 PM, said:

No one makes me laugh on this board on a regular basis more than you do.

A 22 year old physical defenseman that led the NHL in hits? We're not talking some 28-29 year old vet. Anyway, in case you didn't notice the Sabres drafted with an eye towards the physical aspect of the game. Happily someone down at the F'N center gets it. Sadly, you don't.
The players they drafted are more then just guys who can throw hits

Your response was to the fact that Schenn underperformed and hasn't lived up to the hype. Your response was that he throws hits, which seems to be the only thing you look for in players. Thats about the only thing Schenn could do all season, unless you count all the times he gave the puck away in their own zone. He was good at that too

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 04:00 PM

View PostBullwinkle III, on 24 June 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:

So in eight days we're looking at Hudler, Gaustad, Parenteau, Arnott, Samuelsson, Prust, Jagr, Knuble, Semin, O. Jokinen, Smyth, and Penner as available UFAs (I only included the likely forwards).  Plus Parise, Ott, Ryan, and Nash as available in trade.

Who do we go after...what do we do?

I'm of the opinion that it'd be dangerous to assume that any of our newly drafted centers will be ready for the NHL on Day 1 of the season.  I wouldn't mind picking up an older, relatively low priced center for a year or two as insurance.  I also think that we have to trade Roy and his $4 million cap hit to take a serious run at any "name" free agent forward.  I think if that happens, we go after Parise since Drew is his best friend.

So... trade Roy, pick up a cheaper, veteran center as insurance in case the kids at center aren't ready, then go after Parise. :)

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 04:28 PM

View Postmillbank, on 24 June 2012 - 01:37 PM, said:

http://www.uwbadgers...z_justin00.html

Remember this name next week folks... Justin Schultz... he a highly thought of free agent....

more thoughts on player, said to be best player outside the draft by some....

http://sports.yahoo....00723--nhl.html

  Imo he'll sign in Vancouver.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 04:45 PM

View PostCOSabre, on 24 June 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

I'm of the opinion that it'd be dangerous to assume that any of our newly drafted centers will be ready for the NHL on Day 1 of the season.  I wouldn't mind picking up an older, relatively low priced center for a year or two as insurance.  I also think that we have to trade Roy and his $4 million cap hit to take a serious run at any "name" free agent forward.  I think if that happens, we go after Parise since Drew is his best friend.

So... trade Roy, pick up a cheaper, veteran center as insurance in case the kids at center aren't ready, then go after Parise. :)

Right now I think Parise will go to Pitt or the Flyers.  Ryan and Nash seem to have too high an asking price, so I say we make a play for Ott using Roy.  Perhaps along with Knuble, Hudler, or Parenteau on the wing.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 05:51 PM

View PostBullwinkle III, on 24 June 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

Right now I think Parise will go to Pitt or the Flyers.  Ryan and Nash seem to have too high an asking price, so I say we make a play for Ott using Roy.  Perhaps along with Knuble, Hudler, or Parenteau on the wing.
I don't think Ryans asking price is going to stay high, he has come out and said he wants to be moved now and hes not happy with the Ducks. I think the price gets lower soon cause everyone knows he isn't staying in Anaheim anymore, and I doubt Anaheim will just let him sit out instead of getting something for him.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 06:43 PM

View Postapuszczalowski, on 24 June 2012 - 05:51 PM, said:

I don't think Ryans asking price is going to stay high, he has come out and said he wants to be moved now and hes not happy with the Ducks. I think the price gets lower soon cause everyone knows he isn't staying in Anaheim anymore, and I doubt Anaheim will just let him sit out instead of getting something for him.

I honestly don't think the asking price for Ryan drops much, if at all.  If he were a pending UFA next season I'd agree, but he has 3 years left on his contract, Anaheim doesn't have to trade him at all, regardless of his unhappiness.  If I were a GM I'd keep an unhappy 30 goal scorer over a package of doodoo.