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[thesportsbuff]

nobody, on 30 August 2010 - 09:33 AM, said:

Well it is a Sabres league!  

Touche  


And I had the same confusion when I was setting up my league. I was constantly referring to the FAQ to figure it out, but I think I have mine set up correctly now. Here's what I read in the FAQ:

"For every on-ice action, points are applied in every scoring category that action relates to. So, if a goal is worth one point in your league and a power-play goal is worth three points, a player scoring a power-play goal would be awarded a total of four (1 + 3 = 4) points."

On plus/minus rating: "Points: Points are awarded by multiplying the player's plus/minus for the game times the scoring modifier selected by the league commissioner. If the scoring modifier is two and the player records a plus/minus of four, a total of eight points are awarded."

I couldn't really find anything about negative point modifiers in the hockey FAQ, but the fantasy football one references that you can do it, so I'm sure it's the same in hockey.

[Hank]

Nobody,

The point system is there for everyone to see, if people don't draft accordingly that's their problem. Personally I like the way it's set up, it makes people put some thought into who they draft.

If you do change the point system, please do it soon, and only do it once.

[thesportsbuff]

Hank, on 30 August 2010 - 11:32 AM, said:

Nobody,

The point system is there for everyone to see, if people don't draft accordingly that's their problem. Personally I like the way it's set up, it makes people put some thought into who they draft.

If you do change the point system, please do it soon, and only do it once.

I'm going to have to completely disagree with you here. Maybe it makes people "think" about who they draft, but it still doesn't make any sense. There is absolutely no reason that Patrick Kaleta should be more valuable than Sidney Crosby, but that would be damn near the case if you're giving Crosby 10 points for a goal and Kaleta 10 points for a hit. The point system is there for everyone to see, but it's HIS point system, not the default one Yahoo! uses or anything. So it's not like making a change to the scoring a month before the draft is any different than using the scoring he established a month and a few days before the draft.

[nobody]

The more I look at it the more I think we should go back to the type we had last year - the standard head-to-head.

I don't think I like that all there is after a week is either win or lose.  This is hockey - we need some OTLs!  



A standard Head-to-Head league lets you square off each week against another manager. Each stat category counts as one 'game,' with the win going to the team that finishes the week with the highest total in that category. This weekly win-loss total will be added to a cumulative season record. Teams with the best records will compete in playoffs after the regular season.


A Head-to-Head Points league lets you square off each week against another manager. Points are awarded based on how well your players perform in each of several stat categories. Each real-life statistic has an associated point value. The team that finishes the week with the most points is credited with a win, while his opponent is charged with a loss. Weekly wins and losses will be added to a cumulative season record. Teams with the best records will compete in playoffs after the regular season.

[Calvin]

nobody, on 30 August 2010 - 12:29 PM, said:

The more I look at it the more I think we should go back to the type we had last year - the standard head-to-head.

I don't think I like that all there is after a week is either win or lose.  This is hockey - we need some OTLs!  

You have my vote for a standard head-to-head. I'll even take the rotisserie ahead of the head-to-head-with-points thing.

[Vanek-Man]

Hank, on 30 August 2010 - 11:32 AM, said:

Nobody,

The point system is there for everyone to see, if people don't draft accordingly that's their problem. Personally I like the way it's set up, it makes people put some thought into who they draft.

If you do change the point system, please do it soon, and only do it once.

I disagree, in fact, whatever the scoring is, i can adjust because i'm a fantasy hockey nerd, ive played for like 12 years now, but i am just merely looking out for the less experienced people. Malkin and Ovechkin are not worth much in this league but guys like Handzus were fantasy stats based on this scoring.

Nobody, i agree, i would go to a more similar set up that we had last year, although, i'd add more goaltending stats but whatever you decide i'm ok with.

[Hank]

Vanek-Man, on 30 August 2010 - 12:35 PM, said:

I disagree, in fact, whatever the scoring is, i can adjust because i'm a fantasy hockey nerd, ive played for like 12 years now, but i am just merely looking out for the less experienced people. Malkin and Ovechkin are not worth much in this league but guys like Handzus were fantasy stats based on this scoring.

I'm okay with that, I even like it. We just disagree, nothing wrong with that.

[shrader]

Jack, on 30 August 2010 - 12:05 PM, said:

I'm going to have to completely disagree with you here. Maybe it makes people "think" about who they draft, but it still doesn't make any sense. There is absolutely no reason that Patrick Kaleta should be more valuable than Sidney Crosby, but that would be damn near the case if you're giving Crosby 10 points for a goal and Kaleta 10 points for a hit. The point system is there for everyone to see, but it's HIS point system, not the default one Yahoo! uses or anything. So it's not like making a change to the scoring a month before the draft is any different than using the scoring he established a month and a few days before the draft.

I have a friend who runs a "Goons n' Goalies" league each year.  It's nothing but PIMs and goalie stats.  I'm sure that makes for a fun draft.  If I remember correctly, one year he went out of his way to draft a team with nothing but minorities.

[wjag]

Calvin, on 30 August 2010 - 12:34 PM, said:

You have my vote for a standard head-to-head. I'll even take the rotisserie ahead of the head-to-head-with-points thing.

Vanek-Man, on 30 August 2010 - 12:35 PM, said:

I disagree, in fact, whatever the scoring is, i can adjust because i'm a fantasy hockey nerd, ive played for like 12 years now, but i am just merely looking out for the less experienced people. Malkin and Ovechkin are not worth much in this league but guys like Handzus were fantasy stats based on this scoring.

Nobody, i agree, i would go to a more similar set up that we had last year, although, i'd add more goaltending stats but whatever you decide i'm ok with.

Me too.  I had no trouble comprehending and scheming player-wise with last years formula.  I'd like to go back to having three quality starts from your goalies to count goalie stats.

[will]

not that i feel drastically either way, but my preference is pretty traditional.  H2H categories being the favored, followed by roto, and finally the current points based system.

whatever happens, i refuse to get left out of the playoffs on a tie breaker!!!  again.

thanks,
zambones

[nobody]

I have changed back to the standard head-to-head type.

I've emphasized the forward/dmen stats even more this year with a mix of skill and work stats.  I've kept the minimum number of games for goalies at 2 but have swapped out loses for games started which should encourage people to play their goaltenders more.


Forwards/Defensemen Stat Categories:   Goals (G), Assists (A), Points (P), Plus/Minus (+/-), Penalty Minutes (PIM), Powerplay Goals (PPG), Powerplay Assists (PPA), Shorthanded Goals (SHG), Shorthanded Assists (SHA), Shots on Goal (SOG), Shooting Percentage (SH%), Faceoffs Won (FW), Faceoffs Lost (FL), Hits (HIT), Blocks (BLK)

Goaltenders Stat Categories: Games Started (GS), Wins (W), Goals Against Average (GAA), Save Percentage (SV%)

[deluca67]

nobody, on 31 August 2010 - 10:14 AM, said:

I have changed back to the standard head-to-head type.

I've emphasized the forward/dmen stats even more this year with a mix of skill and work stats.  I've kept the minimum number of games for goalies at 2 but have swapped out loses for games started which should encourage people to play their goaltenders more.


Forwards/Defensemen Stat Categories:   Goals (G), Assists (A), Points (P), Plus/Minus (+/-), Penalty Minutes (PIM), Powerplay Goals (PPG), Powerplay Assists (PPA), Shorthanded Goals (SHG), Shorthanded Assists (SHA), Shots on Goal (SOG), Shooting Percentage (SH%), Faceoffs Won (FW), Faceoffs Lost (FL), Hits (HIT), Blocks (BLK)

Goaltenders Stat Categories: Games Started (GS), Wins (W), Goals Against Average (GAA), Save Percentage (SV%)

Any chance of adding Shutouts and Total Saves?

In honor of the Sabres is there a "getting out of the way" stat that can used instead of blocked shots  

[SwampD]

M.D. De Luca, on 31 August 2010 - 08:10 PM, said:

Any chance of adding Shutouts and Total Saves?

In honor of the Sabres is there a "getting out of the way" stat that can used instead of blocked shots  

And if I get Connolly for my team, when he gets hurt do I get credit for all the goals he would have scored if he had played?

[fiftyone]

Still accepting entries or is it too late?

[deluca67]

SwampD, on 31 August 2010 - 08:37 PM, said:

And if I get Connolly for my team, when he gets hurt do I get credit for all the goals he would have scored if he had played?

Maybe eliminate the playoffs all together and only celebrate the Division Championships?  

[nobody]

M.D. De Luca, on 31 August 2010 - 08:10 PM, said:

Any chance of adding Shutouts and Total Saves?

In honor of the Sabres is there a "getting out of the way" stat that can used instead of blocked shots  

Well if I add another goaltender category it will bump the importance of goaltending from the current 21% to 25% of the total.  I'm OK with that if everyone else is.  I will add the Total Saves since you don't have to be one of the top goaltenders to make a lot of saves.

[nobody]

SabresWinItAll51, on 31 August 2010 - 08:43 PM, said:

Still accepting entries or is it too late?

I'll let you know.  I'm still waiting to hear back from a couple of people.

If the spot opens up do you promise to not quit the league even if you end up having the worst team in fantasy history?

[fiftyone]

Hahah, yeah i'll stick around.

[nobody]

SabresWinItAll51, on 01 September 2010 - 09:04 PM, said:

Hahah, yeah i'll stick around.

I sent you a pm about week ago.  Sticking around?

[nobody]

Still one spot open!  I've sent a bunch of pm's out over the last few weeks.  

It might be first come first serve time now.


Draft is next weekend Sat Sep 25 8pm.  Calvin requested we make it a little later or move it to Sunday.  Any votes changing it to 9pm or moving it to Sunday?  Could have it during the Bills Pats game so something fun could be going on during that time.  

[Calvin]

nobody, on 19 September 2010 - 11:24 PM, said:

Draft is next weekend Sat Sep 25 8pm.  Calvin requested we make it a little later or move it to Sunday.  Any votes changing it to 9pm or moving it to Sunday?  Could have it during the Bills Pats game so something fun could be going on during that time.  

No ayes or nays yet eh? During the Bills game might actually be an act of mercy, something to keep your eyes away from the tv screen.

Also, with the forward designations of 2xC, 2xLW & 2xRW, are those strict when picking a starting team, or are we just picking any 6 forwards?

[nobody]

Calvin, on 20 September 2010 - 10:09 AM, said:

No ayes or nays yet eh? During the Bills game might actually be an act of mercy, something to keep your eyes away from the tv screen.

Also, with the forward designations of 2xC, 2xLW & 2xRW, are those strict when picking a starting team, or are we just picking any 6 forwards?

No and no.  

I think moving it to 9 would be the easiest - is the extra hour good enough of a change for you?  Though I think moving it to Sunday would be better for my sanity as I watch the Bills game.

As for the draft - you could draft all dmen but then you would have a lot of holes on the daily roster.  Each player is designated a position by yahoo (though there are a few given multi-positions) and that is how they will be slotted on your team.  So only centers will be able to be put into the center slots and so on.

[Vanek-Man]

Re-draft time- I usually have Sundays off from work during the day to watch football but this upcoming Sunday i will be working until 430... and at 830pm i have a money league hockey draft with old friends from high school who we still keep in contact with even tho they live all over the world, so keeping it Saturday would be my vote.

[Calvin]

nobody, on 20 September 2010 - 10:39 AM, said:

I think moving it to 9 would be the easiest - is the extra hour good enough of a change for you?  Though I think moving it to Sunday would be better for my sanity as I watch the Bills game.

As for the draft - you could draft all dmen but then you would have a lot of holes on the daily roster.  Each player is designated a position by yahoo (though there are a few given multi-positions) and that is how they will be slotted on your team.  So only centers will be able to be put into the center slots and so on.

Saturday 9pm would be great if you could move it, I should be ready at the computer for that.

I like that the slots are fixed - on ESPN Fantasy the F position is open to all comers, C/RW/LW, so I was able to load up on Centers who picked up tons of assists. Glad I cleared that up with you, that should make the drafting more interesting, as if having 16 teams is not already wild and wacky enough!

[nobody]

Sat Sep 25 at 9pm edt it is.

[nobody]

Calvin, on 20 September 2010 - 12:31 PM, said:

Saturday 9pm would be great if you could move it, I should be ready at the computer for that.

I like that the slots are fixed - on ESPN Fantasy the F position is open to all comers, C/RW/LW, so I was able to load up on Centers who picked up tons of assists. Glad I cleared that up with you, that should make the drafting more interesting, as if having 16 teams is not already wild and wacky enough!

By the 5th round you're already scrambling to figure out who to take!

[wjag]

nobody, on 19 September 2010 - 11:24 PM, said:

Still one spot open!  I've sent a bunch of pm's out over the last few weeks.  

It might be first come first serve time now.


Draft is next weekend Sat Sep 25 8pm.  Calvin requested we make it a little later or move it to Sunday.  Any votes changing it to 9pm or moving it to Sunday?  Could have it during the Bills Pats game so something fun could be going on during that time.  

I vote 9p..

[nobody]

wjag, on 20 September 2010 - 02:55 PM, said:

I vote 9p..

Good thing - since I've already changed it to 9p!  

I better start actually looking at my draft order.

[wjag]

nobody, on 20 September 2010 - 02:57 PM, said:

Good thing - since I've already changed it to 9p!  

I better start actually looking at my draft order.

After the first four rounds, I've got no clue..  I'll probably let the computer do the picking after four.  Has the draft order been established?

[Corp000085]

I'm in...  send me the info.

[nobody]

Corp000085, on 20 September 2010 - 06:30 PM, said:

I'm in...  send me the info.

Sent you a pm.  Though there are a few other pm's out there so sign up quick!

[nobody]

wjag, on 20 September 2010 - 06:14 PM, said:

After the first four rounds, I've got no clue..  I'll probably let the computer do the picking after four.  Has the draft order been established?

I have it set for random.  Order gets reversed each round.

[Calvin]

thanks for moving the draft to 9p, i really appreciate that!

yeah with 16 teams and fixed slots, this could be very tricky. i foresee lots of runs on positions, and by Rd 4 all the studs and ol' reliables will be gone.. at that point on it's all about gut feelings and depth charts

this should make for some even competition, maybe it's time to start doing some research eh?!

[thesportsbuff]

Personally I'm excited for a deep draft. To me, it kind of ruins the fun of fantasy sports if everybody's team is full of superstars. If everybody has a stacked team it's really just a toss up every week. But when you have to actually build a team with depth players and less offensive defensemen, it makes everything more fun. There's more action in the free agent market, more trades go down, up and coming players actually mean something -- the whole thing is just a blast.

But to be honest, I did my first hockey draft of the year last week, and I think once everyone gets into the draft you'll realize there's a lot more talent than you can think of off the top of your head. I didn't have any problem drafting a team in a fairly deep league -- only 12 teams, but 8 or 9 forwards a piece.

[nobody]

OK - we have our 16th team!  

Is it you Corp?

[nobody]

Jack, on 21 September 2010 - 08:21 AM, said:

Personally I'm excited for a deep draft. To me, it kind of ruins the fun of fantasy sports if everybody's team is full of superstars. If everybody has a stacked team it's really just a toss up every week. But when you have to actually build a team with depth players and less offensive defensemen, it makes everything more fun. There's more action in the free agent market, more trades go down, up and coming players actually mean something -- the whole thing is just a blast.

But to be honest, I did my first hockey draft of the year last week, and I think once everyone gets into the draft you'll realize there's a lot more talent than you can think of off the top of your head. I didn't have any problem drafting a team in a fairly deep league -- only 12 teams, but 8 or 9 forwards a piece.

There were a lot of changes with FA but not really any trades last year.  One of the teams that 'folded' last year had Crosby on their team.  Maybe that helped keep the league even.  With 16 teams most of the superstars are likely to be spread out among the different teams.

[ThePebble19]

Eesh.  I will miss the first hour or so of the draft...unless we can move it to 10!

[nobody]

ThePebble19, on 21 September 2010 - 09:11 AM, said:

Eesh.  I will miss the first hour or so of the draft...unless we can move it to 10!

I'm OK with 10p.  Anyone object?

[wjag]

nobody, on 21 September 2010 - 10:34 AM, said:

I'm OK with 10p.  Anyone object?

I'm okay with 10..

[SwampD]

10 is fine with me.