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#1 nobody

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 03:18 PM

The Yahoo Hockey Fantasy League, SabreSpaceBlue, is back for 2010!


I will send the link to join to the folks who stuck around until the bitter end in 2009 first.

Anyone that wants to join this year please say so in this thread.  I'll then send the link to you when I know there is still space.




Scoring & Settings
Draft Type: Live Standard Draft
Draft Time: Sat Sep 25 5:00pm EDT
Max Teams: 16
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head - Points
Playoffs: Week 22, 23 and 24 (8 teams) Note: Week 24 runs 7 days from Mar 28 to Apr 3
Playoff Seeding Options: All teams seeded according to overall standings
Roster Positions: C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, G, G, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, IR, IR, IR, IR, IR
Forwards/Defensemen Stat Category Value
Goals (G) 10
Assists (A) 10
Plus/Minus (+/-) 10
Penalty Minutes (PIM) 10
Powerplay Goals (PPG) 10
Powerplay Assists (PPA) 10
Shorthanded Goals (SHG) 10
Shorthanded Assists (SHA) 10
Game-Winning Goals (GWG) 5
Shots on Goal (SOG) 5
Faceoffs Won (FW) 5
Faceoffs Lost (FL) 5
Hits (HIT) 10
Blocks (BLK) 10
Goaltenders Stat Category Value
Wins (W) 5
Losses (L) 5
Goals Against (GA) 5
Shots Against (SA) 5
Saves (SV) 5
Shutouts (SHO) 5

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 03:25 PM

View Postnobody, on 26 August 2010 - 03:18 PM, said:

The Yahoo Hockey Fantasy League, SabreSpaceBlue, is back for 2010!


I will send the link to join to the folks who stuck around until the bitter end in 2009 first.

Anyone that wants to join this year please say so in this thread.  I'll then send the link to you when I know there is still space.




Scoring & Settings
Draft Type: Live Standard Draft
Draft Time: Sat Sep 25 5:00pm EDT
Max Teams: 16
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head - Points
Playoffs: Week 22, 23 and 24 (8 teams) Note: Week 24 runs 7 days from Mar 28 to Apr 3
Playoff Seeding Options: All teams seeded according to overall standings
Roster Positions: C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, G, G, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, IR, IR, IR, IR, IR
Forwards/Defensemen Stat Category Value
Goals (G) 10
Assists (A) 10
Plus/Minus (+/-) 10
Penalty Minutes (PIM) 10
Powerplay Goals (PPG) 10
Powerplay Assists (PPA) 10
Shorthanded Goals (SHG) 10
Shorthanded Assists (SHA) 10
Game-Winning Goals (GWG) 5
Shots on Goal (SOG) 5
Faceoffs Won (FW) 5
Faceoffs Lost (FL) 5
Hits (HIT) 10
Blocks (BLK) 10
Goaltenders Stat Category Value
Wins (W) 5
Losses (L) 5
Goals Against (GA) 5
Shots Against (SA) 5
Saves (SV) 5
Shutouts (SHO) 5
I'm in.  I was active all season long last year, and this year I promise not to miss the live draft.  The computer picks, killed me..

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 03:28 PM

Count me in.

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 03:42 PM

I want in

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 04:13 PM

View Postwjag, on 26 August 2010 - 03:25 PM, said:

I'm in.  I was active all season long last year, and this year I promise not to miss the live draft.  The computer picks, killed me..


PM sent.

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 04:14 PM

View PostJack, on 26 August 2010 - 03:28 PM, said:

Count me in.


Promise not to quit?

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 04:15 PM

View PostHank, on 26 August 2010 - 03:42 PM, said:

I want in


On your honor to stick with it no matter how the battle is going?

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 04:28 PM

I'm back in, can't wait!

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 04:34 PM

I got raped last year but I'm back for more.

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 04:47 PM

View Postnobody, on 26 August 2010 - 04:15 PM, said:

On your honor to stick with it no matter how the battle is going?

Yes

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 04:47 PM

View PostVanek-Man, on 26 August 2010 - 04:28 PM, said:

I'm back in, can't wait!

pm sent

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 04:48 PM

View Postd4rksabre, on 26 August 2010 - 04:34 PM, said:

I got raped last year but I'm back for more.

pm sent

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 04:50 PM

View PostHank, on 26 August 2010 - 04:47 PM, said:

Yes


pm sent

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 06:43 PM

View Postnobody, on 26 August 2010 - 04:13 PM, said:

PM sent.
I'm in.  The Icebergs are back and pledge to their fanbase to qualify for the playoffs.  I finished 7th last year.

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 07:02 PM

Is there still room?

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:08 PM

I'm ready for another run at the playoffs.

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:51 PM

View Postwjag, on 26 August 2010 - 03:25 PM, said:

I'm in.  I was active all season long last year, and this year I promise not to miss the live draft.  The computer picks, killed me..

I'm in.  I was active all season long last year, and this year I promise to miss the live draft.  My picks, killed me..





Nobody, I got the PM and the Swamp Sweepers are back.  I need to relocate them though, my division already has Vanek-man again.  All I need is for tom webster to be in it again for me to make another run at the first pick in the draft.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 02:58 AM

View Postnobody, on 26 August 2010 - 04:14 PM, said:

Promise not to quit?

Yeah man. I opened my league up to the forum because I want more people that don't quit... so I know how bad it sucks when that happens haha. Anyway I'm in, thanks.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 08:11 AM

View PostSwampD, on 26 August 2010 - 09:51 PM, said:

Nobody, I got the PM and the Swamp Sweepers are back.  I need to relocate them though, my division already has Vanek-man again.  All I need is for tom webster to be in it again for me to make another run at the first pick in the draft.


I'm open to rearranging the divisions - where do you want to move to?

The divisions are a less important this year since I currently have it set up for the top 8 teams to make the playoffs.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 08:21 AM

View PostBamBam, on 26 August 2010 - 07:02 PM, said:

Is there still room?


I know you'll follow the 'code of honor' of not quitting.

pm sent.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 08:25 AM

View PostM.D. De Luca, on 26 August 2010 - 09:08 PM, said:

I'm ready for another run at the playoffs.


Welcome back - but don't forget to actually join!

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 08:45 AM

do you still have room? i've been playing on Sabres leagues the last three years on ESPN and i'm tired of playing with quitters!

on my word i'll stick it out to the very bitter end.. feel free to have the mods banish me forever from this board if i go back on it.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 08:49 AM

View PostCalvin, on 27 August 2010 - 08:45 AM, said:

do you still have room? i've been playing on Sabres leagues the last three years on ESPN and i'm tired of playing with quitters!

on my word i'll stick it out to the very bitter end.. feel free to have the mods banish me forever from this board if i go back on it.


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Posted 27 August 2010 - 09:02 AM

Back in for another year.  Good times.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 09:21 AM

View PostThePebble19, on 27 August 2010 - 09:02 AM, said:

Back in for another year.  Good times.

Welcome back!

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 09:48 AM

View Postnobody, on 27 August 2010 - 08:49 AM, said:

pm sent
thank you, i'm all signed up and ready to go!

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 08:29 AM

The Unbearables will tolerate another season.

I'm looking forward to the match up vs. Vanek-Man. Settle some unfinished business? Will the regular season meeting be crucial, again?

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 09:10 PM

View PostMidnight Sabre, on 28 August 2010 - 08:29 AM, said:

The Unbearables will tolerate another season.

I'm looking forward to the match up vs. Vanek-Man. Settle some unfinished business? Will the regular season meeting be crucial, again?


Welcome back Champ!

I rally have no clue what yahoo will do this year in terms of schedule.

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 06:15 AM

View Postnobody, on 28 August 2010 - 09:10 PM, said:

Welcome back Champ!

I rally have no clue what yahoo will do this year in terms of schedule.

Hey man, I'm a little curious how the divisions work. Is it just your standard top player from each division is guaranteed a playoff spot, and then the other top 4 teams? I have no problem with it, I'm sure it will be a blast regardless, but looking at the 'Standings,' it seems a little weird with only three teams per division. If you aren't planning on letting more people again (again, i don't mind either way -- I know a lot of people consider more than 14 teams too many) maybe a two-division league would be better?

Just some thoughts. Can't wait for the season to get going!

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 11:03 PM

Just a question, but what is up with the wacky scoring we have this year for our league? Antoine Vermette, Micheal Handzus and Frans Nielsen, among many others, are better fantasy value picks in this league then Alex Ovechkin or Geno Malkin. That just ain't right.

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 11:06 PM

View PostMidnight Sabre, on 28 August 2010 - 08:29 AM, said:

The Unbearables will tolerate another season.

I'm looking forward to the match up vs. Vanek-Man. Settle some unfinished business? Will the regular season meeting be crucial, again?

Arn't you tired of beating me? haha last year we played twice, i lost 3-11 during the season and then in the final on tie breaker (7-7 tie). But, glad you're back, i forgot who the user name for Unbearables was but i was def hoping you would be returning.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 07:06 AM

View Postnobody, on 27 August 2010 - 08:11 AM, said:

I'm open to rearranging the divisions - where do you want to move to?

The divisions are a less important this year since I currently have it set up for the top 8 teams to make the playoffs.
It was just a joke.  I'll take my lumps from wherever they come.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 08:04 AM

View PostJack, on 29 August 2010 - 06:15 AM, said:

Hey man, I'm a little curious how the divisions work. Is it just your standard top player from each division is guaranteed a playoff spot, and then the other top 4 teams? I have no problem with it, I'm sure it will be a blast regardless, but looking at the 'Standings,' it seems a little weird with only three teams per division. If you aren't planning on letting more people again (again, i don't mind either way -- I know a lot of people consider more than 14 teams too many) maybe a two-division league would be better?

Just some thoughts. Can't wait for the season to get going!


Slowly filling in the last few spots Jack.  We're up to 13 of 16 now.

Right now I have it set that just the top 8 make it to the playoffs.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 08:13 AM

View PostVanek-Man, on 29 August 2010 - 11:03 PM, said:

Just a question, but what is up with the wacky scoring we have this year for our league? Antoine Vermette, Micheal Handzus and Frans Nielsen, among many others, are better fantasy value picks in this league then Alex Ovechkin or Geno Malkin. That just ain't right.


I think your top scorers will still be winning most of those offensive categories!  Then we have a few categories to make sure it is not just a scorers league.  I also did my best to make sure goaltenders aren't going to control who wins.

As I say with everything with the league - if people think I should tweak something - please let me know what you would like to change something to.


Forwards/Defensemen Stat Category   Value
Goals (G) 10
Assists (A) 10
Plus/Minus (+/-) 10
Penalty Minutes (PIM) 10
Powerplay Goals (PPG) 10
Powerplay Assists (PPA) 10
Shorthanded Goals (SHG) 10
Shorthanded Assists (SHA) 10
Game-Winning Goals (GWG) 5
Shots on Goal (SOG) 5
Faceoffs Won (FW) 5
Faceoffs Lost (FL) 5
Hits (HIT) 10
Blocks (BLK) 10
Goaltenders Stat Category Value
Wins (W) 5
Losses (L) 5
Goals Against (GA) 5
Shots Against (SA) 5
Saves (SV) 5
Shutouts (SHO) 5

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 08:41 AM

I'll play again.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 09:03 AM

View Postnobody, on 30 August 2010 - 08:13 AM, said:

I think your top scorers will still be winning most of those offensive categories!  Then we have a few categories to make sure it is not just a scorers league.  I also did my best to make sure goaltenders aren't going to control who wins.

As I say with everything with the league - if people think I should tweak something - please let me know what you would like to change something to.


Forwards/Defensemen Stat Category   Value
Goals (G) 10
Assists (A) 10
Plus/Minus (+/-) 10
Penalty Minutes (PIM) 10
Powerplay Goals (PPG) 10
Powerplay Assists (PPA) 10
Shorthanded Goals (SHG) 10
Shorthanded Assists (SHA) 10
Game-Winning Goals (GWG) 5
Shots on Goal (SOG) 5
Faceoffs Won (FW) 5
Faceoffs Lost (FL) 5
Hits (HIT) 10
Blocks (BLK) 10
Goaltenders Stat Category Value
Wins (W) 5
Losses (L) 5
Goals Against (GA) 5
Shots Against (SA) 5
Saves (SV) 5
Shutouts (SHO) 5

This seems pretty fair for the most part. My only real beef is Penalty Minutes -- in my league I eliminated them completely. Why should penalty minutes be considered a good thing? But if you want to keep them around I would at least make it 1 or 2 points per PIM. 10 points per PIM is too much, if somebody gets a fighting penalty they're awarded 50 points. That's as much as if somebody scores 5 goals. I think that's why, as somebody noted above me, lesser-skilled players are ranked higher than superstars.

Plus/Minus is funky, too, in this scoring system. It probably shouldn't be worth 10, because if somebody goes +10 on the week, it will times it by 10 and end up with 100 points for that player.

A couple less-important suggestions, just ones out of my own personal preference:
- Special Teams points should be lowered, because they are combined with regular points. For example, if a player scores a powerplay goal, they're awarded the 10 points for a goal + 10 points for a powerplay goal (and same deal for assists). I would put it to about half of value of a regular point... ie: 10 points for a goal, 5 points for it being on the PP = 15 points for PPG essentially.

- I think hits & shot blocks are valued far too much. Like penalty minutes, why should a single hit get you as many points as a goal? I think hits & blocks should be 1 point a piece. They are more like "additional" statistics rather than the primary goals/assists/etc.

- Faceoffs are okay at 5, but Faceoffs lost needs to be set to "-5" I think, otherwise you're awarding centers 5 points for each faceoff they take.

- I think goaltender statistics need to be upped as well, to make them as valuable as a forward. Wins should be 10, losses eliminated (or changed to a negative), Saves maybe 1 point a piece, and shutouts 5 a piece.

Here is how I would do the scoring for this league...

Goals (G) 10
Assists (A) 5
Plus/Minus (+/-)      1
Powerplay Goals (PPG) 5
Shorthanded Goals (SHG) 5
Game-Winning Goals (GWG) 5
Shots on Goal (SOG) 1
Faceoffs Won (FW) 2
Hits (HIT) 1
Blocks (BLK) 1

Goaltenders Stat Category Value
Wins (W) 10
Saves (SV) 1
Shutouts (SHO) 5



Again these are all just suggestions, and I don't care either way what you decide to do. I'm not trying to sound like I'm complaining about everything, I just think the way you have it set up is a little unfair -- it totally decreases the value of scoring forwards and makes third and fourth line grit players who rack up hits/blocks/PIMs the true top scorers.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 09:19 AM

View PostJack, on 30 August 2010 - 09:03 AM, said:



- Faceoffs are okay at 5, but Faceoffs lost needs to be set to "-5" I think, otherwise you're awarding centers 5 points for each faceoff they take.


I was scratching my head on Faceoffs Lost.  A negative value would sure make it interesting.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 09:23 AM

View Postwjag, on 30 August 2010 - 09:19 AM, said:

I was scratching my head on Faceoffs Lost.  A negative value would sure make it interesting.


I'll have to relook into the point thing if it works as Jack says it does.  I figured it would give 5 or 10 points to the winner of each category each week in the head-to-head matchup.  Yahoo didn't have any information when I set it up.  Maybe we should just go back to the basic head-to-head we used last year.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 09:24 AM

View PostSDS, on 30 August 2010 - 08:41 AM, said:

I'll play again.


I sent you a pm last Thursday if I recall - want me to resend?

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 09:33 AM

View PostJack, on 30 August 2010 - 09:03 AM, said:

I just think the way you have it set up is a little unfair -- it totally decreases the value of scoring forwards and makes third and fourth line grit players who rack up hits/blocks/PIMs the true top scorers.

Well it is a Sabres league!   ;)